Air carrier first officer complaint regarding flight crew schedules and resulting fatigue.

Attributes
ACN	249239
Time
Date	199308
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : phx
State Reference	AZ
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zjx
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 800
ASRS Report	249239
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

On aug/xx/93 I was a deadheading crew member for a total of 7 hours, and 2 stops. Because our reserve crew was scrambled, no catering was available. When our meals arrived we were also given a flight plan and told to depart as soon as possible due to another problem in the system. After an hour preparing our aircraft for departure our crew was airborne, on our way and able to begin dinner. When we arrived at our destination another flight plan awaited, an as soon as possible departure, and 2 mechanical write-ups from the flight. It took another hour to clear the mechanical's and we were ready to depart. Let's review the duty time of our crew 10 plus 30 hours. Flight time 1 plus 30. The 16 hour rule and 8 hour flight time is unsafe. Our crew could still be on duty for 5 plus 30 hours. I felt unsafe on this date. It was all legal, and goes on in many cockpits on a daily basis.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR FO COMPLAINT REGARDING FLC SCHEDULES AND RESULTING FATIGUE.

Narrative: ON AUG/XX/93 I WAS A DEADHEADING CREW MEMBER FOR A TOTAL OF 7 HRS, AND 2 STOPS. BECAUSE OUR RESERVE CREW WAS SCRAMBLED, NO CATERING WAS AVAILABLE. WHEN OUR MEALS ARRIVED WE WERE ALSO GIVEN A FLT PLAN AND TOLD TO DEPART ASAP DUE TO ANOTHER PROB IN THE SYS. AFTER AN HR PREPARING OUR ACFT FOR DEP OUR CREW WAS AIRBORNE, ON OUR WAY AND ABLE TO BEGIN DINNER. WHEN WE ARRIVED AT OUR DEST ANOTHER FLT PLAN AWAITED, AN ASAP DEP, AND 2 MECHANICAL WRITE-UPS FROM THE FLT. IT TOOK ANOTHER HR TO CLR THE MECHANICAL'S AND WE WERE READY TO DEPART. LET'S REVIEW THE DUTY TIME OF OUR CREW 10 PLUS 30 HRS. FLT TIME 1 PLUS 30. THE 16 HR RULE AND 8 HR FLT TIME IS UNSAFE. OUR CREW COULD STILL BE ON DUTY FOR 5 PLUS 30 HRS. I FELT UNSAFE ON THIS DATE. IT WAS ALL LEGAL, AND GOES ON IN MANY COCKPITS ON A DAILY BASIS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.