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Attributes | |
ACN | 251125 |
Time | |
Date | 199309 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : stl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 15000 |
ASRS Report | 235112 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 9500 |
ASRS Report | 251043 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 750 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to intercept the 30R localizer at 4500 ft assigned. We were approximately 20 mi out at this time in the right turn when we received a TCASII RA. We followed the direction (descend) to approximately 4000 ft then climbed back to 4500 ft as we told ATC of the problem. We were in a cloud deck of broken between approximately 4000 ft and 6000 ft. I did not see the subject aircraft. What bothers me the most is that the resulting avoidance maneuver was not well executed. Although the altitude did not vary that much, we did not stay in the green band and in the confusion we passed through the localizer on a parallel runway system. The RA could hardly have happened at a worse place, turning, intercepting, WX, low altitude, changing confign, and speed. I was startled by the RA and feel simulator exposure to this system is a must. Hopefully, next time I'll feel better about the experience!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING TURN-IN TO A PARALLEL ILS APCH, CAPT OF AN MLG ACR ACFT DRIFTED OVER TO THE OTHER RWY CTRLINE IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO INTERCEPT THE 30R LOC AT 4500 FT ASSIGNED. WE WERE APPROX 20 MI OUT AT THIS TIME IN THE R TURN WHEN WE RECEIVED A TCASII RA. WE FOLLOWED THE DIRECTION (DSND) TO APPROX 4000 FT THEN CLBED BACK TO 4500 FT AS WE TOLD ATC OF THE PROB. WE WERE IN A CLOUD DECK OF BROKEN BTWN APPROX 4000 FT AND 6000 FT. I DID NOT SEE THE SUBJECT ACFT. WHAT BOTHERS ME THE MOST IS THAT THE RESULTING AVOIDANCE MANEUVER WAS NOT WELL EXECUTED. ALTHOUGH THE ALT DID NOT VARY THAT MUCH, WE DID NOT STAY IN THE GREEN BAND AND IN THE CONFUSION WE PASSED THROUGH THE LOC ON A PARALLEL RWY SYS. THE RA COULD HARDLY HAVE HAPPENED AT A WORSE PLACE, TURNING, INTERCEPTING, WX, LOW ALT, CHANGING CONFIGN, AND SPD. I WAS STARTLED BY THE RA AND FEEL SIMULATOR EXPOSURE TO THIS SYS IS A MUST. HOPEFULLY, NEXT TIME I'LL FEEL BETTER ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.