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Attributes | |
ACN | 253724 |
Time | |
Date | 199310 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gpz |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : zmp |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 253724 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : assigned or threatened penalties |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Airlines flight gpz to tuf on climb, a few comments were made below 10000 ft for a reference to terrain features and were not strictly pertinent to the flight. These comments were brief and in no way interfered with the duties, coordination, or professionalism of us as a flight crew. The flight segment was in an extremely sparsely populated area and there were no passenger on board for this leg of the flight. The FAA inspector on board was name xx, last name unknown and is out of the msp district office. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter states the inspector filed a report and he has received his 10 day letter. He responded. His first officer has received a second letter stating the matter has been sent to regional office. He and first officer agree that they were talking below 10000 ft but no passenger on board and so they became a bit more relaxed than they normally would have. Inspector they spoke to after event said they would receive a violation, a warning letter or possibly nothing at all. Reporter's company did issue a memo to entire pilot group regarding the sterile cockpit procedure and indicated there had been FAA action against a crew. They are trying to eliminate any future such action.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACI ON BOARD WHEN FLC VIOLATES THE STERILE COCKPIT RULE BELOW 10000 FT. FAA FOLLOWUP.
Narrative: AIRLINES FLT GPZ TO TUF ON CLB, A FEW COMMENTS WERE MADE BELOW 10000 FT FOR A REF TO TERRAIN FEATURES AND WERE NOT STRICTLY PERTINENT TO THE FLT. THESE COMMENTS WERE BRIEF AND IN NO WAY INTERFERED WITH THE DUTIES, COORD, OR PROFESSIONALISM OF US AS A FLC. THE FLT SEGMENT WAS IN AN EXTREMELY SPARSELY POPULATED AREA AND THERE WERE NO PAX ON BOARD FOR THIS LEG OF THE FLT. THE FAA INSPECTOR ON BOARD WAS NAME XX, LAST NAME UNKNOWN AND IS OUT OF THE MSP DISTRICT OFFICE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR STATES THE INSPECTOR FILED A RPT AND HE HAS RECEIVED HIS 10 DAY LETTER. HE RESPONDED. HIS FO HAS RECEIVED A SECOND LETTER STATING THE MATTER HAS BEEN SENT TO REGIONAL OFFICE. HE AND FO AGREE THAT THEY WERE TALKING BELOW 10000 FT BUT NO PAX ON BOARD AND SO THEY BECAME A BIT MORE RELAXED THAN THEY NORMALLY WOULD HAVE. INSPECTOR THEY SPOKE TO AFTER EVENT SAID THEY WOULD RECEIVE A VIOLATION, A WARNING LETTER OR POSSIBLY NOTHING AT ALL. RPTR'S COMPANY DID ISSUE A MEMO TO ENTIRE PLT GROUP REGARDING THE STERILE COCKPIT PROC AND INDICATED THERE HAD BEEN FAA ACTION AGAINST A CREW. THEY ARE TRYING TO ELIMINATE ANY FUTURE SUCH ACTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.