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Attributes | |
ACN | 254038 |
Time | |
Date | 199310 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gld |
State Reference | KS |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 1000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 254038 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was on IFR flight plan. VFR at the time, 3-5 mins before I was in and out of clouds. A low wing airplane (I think an small aircraft) crossed my path in front of me from right to left. No time to react. As I looked out my left window, it looked as if he was descending. I'm not sure if he ever saw me. This took place at 11000 ft. Center never reported anything. I know they are not required to separate IFR and VFR traffic. I was told that emphatically at a previous time when I called traffic not reported by center. Maybe that's why I said nothing to center at the time. The more I thought about how close the incident was to being real serious, the more I wished I would have said something. You don't want to get people in trouble, but I want a safe environment in which to fly. I think center should be required to call all traffic for IFR flts at least above 10000 ft. In all fairness, I realize this does not happen often, but it only takes once. The plane crossing in front of me was about 12 inches long in my windshield, if someone knows how to convert that to ft. It was too close for me.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: VFR ACFT DSNDS THROUGH IFR ALT. NO TA FROM CTR.
Narrative: I WAS ON IFR FLT PLAN. VFR AT THE TIME, 3-5 MINS BEFORE I WAS IN AND OUT OF CLOUDS. A LOW WING AIRPLANE (I THINK AN SMA) CROSSED MY PATH IN FRONT OF ME FROM R TO L. NO TIME TO REACT. AS I LOOKED OUT MY L WINDOW, IT LOOKED AS IF HE WAS DSNDING. I'M NOT SURE IF HE EVER SAW ME. THIS TOOK PLACE AT 11000 FT. CTR NEVER RPTED ANYTHING. I KNOW THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO SEPARATE IFR AND VFR TFC. I WAS TOLD THAT EMPHATICALLY AT A PREVIOUS TIME WHEN I CALLED TFC NOT RPTED BY CTR. MAYBE THAT'S WHY I SAID NOTHING TO CTR AT THE TIME. THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT HOW CLOSE THE INCIDENT WAS TO BEING REAL SERIOUS, THE MORE I WISHED I WOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING. YOU DON'T WANT TO GET PEOPLE IN TROUBLE, BUT I WANT A SAFE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH TO FLY. I THINK CTR SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO CALL ALL TFC FOR IFR FLTS AT LEAST ABOVE 10000 FT. IN ALL FAIRNESS, I REALIZE THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN OFTEN, BUT IT ONLY TAKES ONCE. THE PLANE XING IN FRONT OF ME WAS ABOUT 12 INCHES LONG IN MY WINDSHIELD, IF SOMEONE KNOWS HOW TO CONVERT THAT TO FT. IT WAS TOO CLOSE FOR ME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.