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Attributes | |
ACN | 255935 |
Time | |
Date | 199310 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 255935 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We were given 35-40 min departure delay at dfw-den (XA54Z departure). We took off at XA51Z -- 3 mins before delay time, then were put behind another flight on same route (dfw-den), but he was scheduled to leave dfw 10 mins after us, so he had to have departed approximately 15 mins before his ATC departure time -- evidently a deliberate violation of ATC procedures. Arriving in den, evidently only our flight, the one ahead of us, and one from aus-den had been delayed. All the other flts in the den traffic pattern were approximately on time, evidence that ATC was discriminating with ATC hold procedures.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR COMPLAINS THEIR DEP TIME WAS LATER THAN SOME OTHERS THEREBY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST THEM.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN 35-40 MIN DEP DELAY AT DFW-DEN (XA54Z DEP). WE TOOK OFF AT XA51Z -- 3 MINS BEFORE DELAY TIME, THEN WERE PUT BEHIND ANOTHER FLT ON SAME RTE (DFW-DEN), BUT HE WAS SCHEDULED TO LEAVE DFW 10 MINS AFTER US, SO HE HAD TO HAVE DEPARTED APPROX 15 MINS BEFORE HIS ATC DEP TIME -- EVIDENTLY A DELIBERATE VIOLATION OF ATC PROCS. ARRIVING IN DEN, EVIDENTLY ONLY OUR FLT, THE ONE AHEAD OF US, AND ONE FROM AUS-DEN HAD BEEN DELAYED. ALL THE OTHER FLTS IN THE DEN TFC PATTERN WERE APPROX ON TIME, EVIDENCE THAT ATC WAS DISCRIMINATING WITH ATC HOLD PROCS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.