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Attributes | |
ACN | 257856 |
Time | |
Date | 199311 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : yyt |
State Reference | NF |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 33000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : czqx tower : clt |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : other oceanic enroute : atlantic enroute airway : czqx |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 11000 |
ASRS Report | 257856 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 257720 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | other Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Flying international flight from bos-lgw (gatwick). After level off at FL330 the #1 INS warning light came on. Trouble- shooting the malfunction code indicated a navigational error problem. The first officer made 2 separate accuracy checks and confirmed that the #1 INS was off about 20 mi from the position of INS #2 and #3. The #1 INS was taken out of triple mix and the captain's navigation was transferred to INS #3. The #1 INS warning light went out. The #1 INS was left in the on position (in accordance with company policy) to provide an attitude backup in case total failure of INS #3. A little over 1 hour later the aircraft heeled hardover to the left about 15 degrees and the aircraft began to buffet. At the same time, the #1 INS warning light came back on and captain's vertical gyro tumbled and several warning flags came into view on the instruments. The captain immediately gave control of the aircraft to the copilot. The captain turned off both yaw dampers and the #1 INS. The copilot was then able to immediately gain control of the aircraft after yaw dampers and INS #1 were turned off. The whole episode took no more than about 5 seconds. The airspeed increased to about .84 mach (we were cruising at .83) and we lost about 250-300 ft. Buffeting was significant and we believe it was due to a high sideslip force causing the vertical stabilizer to reach a high angle of attack brought about by false signals to the yaw damper system by INS #1. All captain's functions were transferred to INS #3 and the yaw dampers turned back on with no further problems. One female passenger hurt an ankle while walking to the lav. After conferring with dispatch, we continued to destination. All 3 crew members were familiar with a similar incident which occurred this summer on another of our widebody transport's. We therefore were able to immediately recognize the problem and take corrective action even though we have no format guidance in any of our manuals or training procedures. An analysis of the previous incident was published in a company flight operations monthly newsletter but was not published as an official notification to all crew members. If we had not read that article, it may have taken much longer to analyze and react to this problem and made the recovery much more difficult. I recommend that after an appropriate analysis of this incident, all widebody transport users be formally notified of the possibility of this problem and procedures to deal with it. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: when the anomaly occurred, there was hard yaw to the left. The captain's attitude indicator failed with flags. The standby attitude indicator was not referenced and the aircraft was immediately given to the first officer to fly. There had been a recent article in the flight operations magazine printed by that airline about a previous similar incident. The article suggested that both yaw dampers be turned off in a case like this and the flight crew did so. Present procedure calls for turning off the faulty INS. Reporter is not sure if that INS still provides signals to the yaw damper or if the yaw damper is also rendered inoperative. Callback conversation with reporter acn #257720 revealed the following: the reporting captain states that his air carrier shows an appalling lack of interest in this problem, even though this is the second such incident in 1993. He believes that his crew was able to handle this incident so well because they all had read an article in the air carrier's magazine for its crew members dealing with the other incident of this type. The reporter states that apparently the #1 INS sends information to the yaw dampers which caused the hard over rudder signal. The reporter does not know if the #2 INS sends information to the other set of yaw dampers, or whether it all comes from the #1 INS when it is not turned off. SOP for operating the INS is to put any INS that shows a navigation fault into the attitude mode which still allows the INS to send attitude information to the HSI and the yaw dampers. The reporting captain says that 'he is bullet proof' with less than 2 yrs to fly, so he is going to go to the office and make some waves over this incident. He has not informed the FAA of this incident, and believes that theacr has not done so either. This type system has a 'triple mix' navigation system that averages the navigation signals of the 3 INS but does not average attitude signals. Supplemental information from acn 257721: in august we (air carrier) had a widebody transport that was 'out of control' due to an INS problem which was brought under control after the captain's gyro tumbled and the #1 INS was turned off. The #1 INS feeds inputs to the lower yaw dampers through the CADC. This information was not included in our manuals. The faulty INS caused the problem. I said to turn off the #1 INS. The captain had already reached up and turned off the yaw dampeners. The occurrence lasted approximately 5 seconds. Procedures should be developed and incorporated into the manual. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: the reporting first officer states that he understands that his air carrier is planning to replace the current INS units with others from another manufacturer that are more reliable. The reporter states that the lower yaw dampers get their information from the #1 INS. The pilot's manuals do not state where the upper yaw dampers get their information.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: #1 INS FAILURE CAUSES A FALSE HARD OVER YAW DAMPER SIGNAL. THIS CAUSED A TURN, SOME BUFFET AND ALT LOSS.
Narrative: FLYING INTL FLT FROM BOS-LGW (GATWICK). AFTER LEVEL OFF AT FL330 THE #1 INS WARNING LIGHT CAME ON. TROUBLE- SHOOTING THE MALFUNCTION CODE INDICATED A NAVIGATIONAL ERROR PROB. THE FO MADE 2 SEPARATE ACCURACY CHKS AND CONFIRMED THAT THE #1 INS WAS OFF ABOUT 20 MI FROM THE POS OF INS #2 AND #3. THE #1 INS WAS TAKEN OUT OF TRIPLE MIX AND THE CAPT'S NAV WAS TRANSFERRED TO INS #3. THE #1 INS WARNING LIGHT WENT OUT. THE #1 INS WAS LEFT IN THE ON POS (IN ACCORDANCE WITH COMPANY POLICY) TO PROVIDE AN ATTITUDE BACKUP IN CASE TOTAL FAILURE OF INS #3. A LITTLE OVER 1 HR LATER THE ACFT HEELED HARDOVER TO THE L ABOUT 15 DEGS AND THE ACFT BEGAN TO BUFFET. AT THE SAME TIME, THE #1 INS WARNING LIGHT CAME BACK ON AND CAPT'S VERT GYRO TUMBLED AND SEVERAL WARNING FLAGS CAME INTO VIEW ON THE INSTS. THE CAPT IMMEDIATELY GAVE CTL OF THE ACFT TO THE COPLT. THE CAPT TURNED OFF BOTH YAW DAMPERS AND THE #1 INS. THE COPLT WAS THEN ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY GAIN CTL OF THE ACFT AFTER YAW DAMPERS AND INS #1 WERE TURNED OFF. THE WHOLE EPISODE TOOK NO MORE THAN ABOUT 5 SECONDS. THE AIRSPD INCREASED TO ABOUT .84 MACH (WE WERE CRUISING AT .83) AND WE LOST ABOUT 250-300 FT. BUFFETING WAS SIGNIFICANT AND WE BELIEVE IT WAS DUE TO A HIGH SIDESLIP FORCE CAUSING THE VERT STABILIZER TO REACH A HIGH ANGLE OF ATTACK BROUGHT ABOUT BY FALSE SIGNALS TO THE YAW DAMPER SYS BY INS #1. ALL CAPT'S FUNCTIONS WERE TRANSFERRED TO INS #3 AND THE YAW DAMPERS TURNED BACK ON WITH NO FURTHER PROBS. ONE FEMALE PAX HURT AN ANKLE WHILE WALKING TO THE LAV. AFTER CONFERRING WITH DISPATCH, WE CONTINUED TO DEST. ALL 3 CREW MEMBERS WERE FAMILIAR WITH A SIMILAR INCIDENT WHICH OCCURRED THIS SUMMER ON ANOTHER OF OUR WDB'S. WE THEREFORE WERE ABLE TO IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZE THE PROB AND TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE NO FORMAT GUIDANCE IN ANY OF OUR MANUALS OR TRAINING PROCS. AN ANALYSIS OF THE PREVIOUS INCIDENT WAS PUBLISHED IN A COMPANY FLT OPS MONTHLY NEWSLETTER BUT WAS NOT PUBLISHED AS AN OFFICIAL NOTIFICATION TO ALL CREW MEMBERS. IF WE HAD NOT READ THAT ARTICLE, IT MAY HAVE TAKEN MUCH LONGER TO ANALYZE AND REACT TO THIS PROB AND MADE THE RECOVERY MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. I RECOMMEND THAT AFTER AN APPROPRIATE ANALYSIS OF THIS INCIDENT, ALL WDB USERS BE FORMALLY NOTIFIED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF THIS PROB AND PROCS TO DEAL WITH IT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: WHEN THE ANOMALY OCCURRED, THERE WAS HARD YAW TO THE L. THE CAPT'S ATTITUDE INDICATOR FAILED WITH FLAGS. THE STANDBY ATTITUDE INDICATOR WAS NOT REFED AND THE ACFT WAS IMMEDIATELY GIVEN TO THE FO TO FLY. THERE HAD BEEN A RECENT ARTICLE IN THE FLT OPS MAGAZINE PRINTED BY THAT AIRLINE ABOUT A PREVIOUS SIMILAR INCIDENT. THE ARTICLE SUGGESTED THAT BOTH YAW DAMPERS BE TURNED OFF IN A CASE LIKE THIS AND THE FLC DID SO. PRESENT PROC CALLS FOR TURNING OFF THE FAULTY INS. RPTR IS NOT SURE IF THAT INS STILL PROVIDES SIGNALS TO THE YAW DAMPER OR IF THE YAW DAMPER IS ALSO RENDERED INOP. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER ACN #257720 REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: THE RPTING CAPT STATES THAT HIS ACR SHOWS AN APPALLING LACK OF INTEREST IN THIS PROB, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS THE SECOND SUCH INCIDENT IN 1993. HE BELIEVES THAT HIS CREW WAS ABLE TO HANDLE THIS INCIDENT SO WELL BECAUSE THEY ALL HAD READ AN ARTICLE IN THE ACR'S MAGAZINE FOR ITS CREW MEMBERS DEALING WITH THE OTHER INCIDENT OF THIS TYPE. THE RPTR STATES THAT APPARENTLY THE #1 INS SENDS INFO TO THE YAW DAMPERS WHICH CAUSED THE HARD OVER RUDDER SIGNAL. THE RPTR DOES NOT KNOW IF THE #2 INS SENDS INFO TO THE OTHER SET OF YAW DAMPERS, OR WHETHER IT ALL COMES FROM THE #1 INS WHEN IT IS NOT TURNED OFF. SOP FOR OPERATING THE INS IS TO PUT ANY INS THAT SHOWS A NAV FAULT INTO THE ATTITUDE MODE WHICH STILL ALLOWS THE INS TO SEND ATTITUDE INFO TO THE HSI AND THE YAW DAMPERS. THE RPTING CAPT SAYS THAT 'HE IS BULLET PROOF' WITH LESS THAN 2 YRS TO FLY, SO HE IS GOING TO GO TO THE OFFICE AND MAKE SOME WAVES OVER THIS INCIDENT. HE HAS NOT INFORMED THE FAA OF THIS INCIDENT, AND BELIEVES THAT THEACR HAS NOT DONE SO EITHER. THIS TYPE SYS HAS A 'TRIPLE MIX' NAV SYS THAT AVERAGES THE NAV SIGNALS OF THE 3 INS BUT DOES NOT AVERAGE ATTITUDE SIGNALS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION FROM ACN 257721: IN AUGUST WE (ACR) HAD A WDB THAT WAS 'OUT OF CONTROL' DUE TO AN INS PROB WHICH WAS BROUGHT UNDER CONTROL AFTER THE CAPT'S GYRO TUMBLED AND THE #1 INS WAS TURNED OFF. THE #1 INS FEEDS INPUTS TO THE LOWER YAW DAMPERS THROUGH THE CADC. THIS INFO WAS NOT INCLUDED IN OUR MANUALS. THE FAULTY INS CAUSED THE PROB. I SAID TO TURN OFF THE #1 INS. THE CAPT HAD ALREADY REACHED UP AND TURNED OFF THE YAW DAMPENERS. THE OCCURRENCE LASTED APPROX 5 SECONDS. PROCS SHOULD BE DEVELOPED AND INCORPORATED INTO THE MANUAL. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: THE RPTING FO STATES THAT HE UNDERSTANDS THAT HIS ACR IS PLANNING TO REPLACE THE CURRENT INS UNITS WITH OTHERS FROM ANOTHER MANUFACTURER THAT ARE MORE RELIABLE. THE RPTR STATES THAT THE LOWER YAW DAMPERS GET THEIR INFO FROM THE #1 INS. THE PLT'S MANUALS DO NOT STATE WHERE THE UPPER YAW DAMPERS GET THEIR INFO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.