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Attributes | |
ACN | 258857 |
Time | |
Date | 199311 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fdk |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 700 agl bound upper : 700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : phx |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 1600 flight time type : 4 |
ASRS Report | 258857 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other other |
Narrative:
I gave a private pilot a biennial flight review on this flight. I elected to stay in the pattern due to the marginal conditions. Before we left the school, we listened to the AWOS of fdk and the AWOS indicated VFR conditions: more than 3 mi visibility and more than 1000 ft ceiling. With that knowledge, we agreed to do an hour of pattern work. We taxied out after the preflight walkaround and listened one more time to the AWOS. This time it indicated that there was 2 1/2 mi visibility and more than 1000 ft ceiling (field elevation = 305 ft). We decided to fly a low pattern at 1000 ft MSL which is 700 ft AGL and therefore fly under the flight rules that apply in class G airspace: 1 mi visibility and clear of clouds (daytime). We took off and had no trouble to perform a safe flight under VFR conditions. It never deteriorated and, later on, the WX actually improved. We did our position reports on each leg and monitored the unicom frequency for any other traffic. 2 people on the ground (there was nobody in the air) decided to report us to the FAA, stating that we were flying in IFR conditions. Not true!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACCUSED BY UNKNOWN OBSERVERS OF FLYING VFR IN IMC AT AN UNCTLED ARPT.
Narrative: I GAVE A PVT PLT A BIENNIAL FLT REVIEW ON THIS FLT. I ELECTED TO STAY IN THE PATTERN DUE TO THE MARGINAL CONDITIONS. BEFORE WE LEFT THE SCHOOL, WE LISTENED TO THE AWOS OF FDK AND THE AWOS INDICATED VFR CONDITIONS: MORE THAN 3 MI VISIBILITY AND MORE THAN 1000 FT CEILING. WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE, WE AGREED TO DO AN HR OF PATTERN WORK. WE TAXIED OUT AFTER THE PREFLT WALKAROUND AND LISTENED ONE MORE TIME TO THE AWOS. THIS TIME IT INDICATED THAT THERE WAS 2 1/2 MI VISIBILITY AND MORE THAN 1000 FT CEILING (FIELD ELEVATION = 305 FT). WE DECIDED TO FLY A LOW PATTERN AT 1000 FT MSL WHICH IS 700 FT AGL AND THEREFORE FLY UNDER THE FLT RULES THAT APPLY IN CLASS G AIRSPACE: 1 MI VISIBILITY AND CLR OF CLOUDS (DAYTIME). WE TOOK OFF AND HAD NO TROUBLE TO PERFORM A SAFE FLT UNDER VFR CONDITIONS. IT NEVER DETERIORATED AND, LATER ON, THE WX ACTUALLY IMPROVED. WE DID OUR POS RPTS ON EACH LEG AND MONITORED THE UNICOM FREQ FOR ANY OTHER TFC. 2 PEOPLE ON THE GND (THERE WAS NOBODY IN THE AIR) DECIDED TO RPT US TO THE FAA, STATING THAT WE WERE FLYING IN IFR CONDITIONS. NOT TRUE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.