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Attributes | |
ACN | 259075 |
Time | |
Date | 199312 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 259075 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 11250 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 258577 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | other physical facility |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Flight was instructed to taxi to runway 3R (standing taxi). After passing W-3, we were instructed to 'taxi into position and hold.' I looked up and saw the 'hold short' lights and signs of runway 27L/9R, checked my map, did not see runway 27L depicted and assumed we were at the approach end of runway 3R. I called for the checklist while holding short of the hold short point for runway 3R. As we completed the checklist, a cpr medium large transport passed our position on its takeoff roll. We confirmed our clearance with the tower and back taxied to runway 3R approach end. Before departing, we briefed the tower as to the problem (no chart depiction) and offered advice to remedy the situation. Problem: no chart depiction of runway 27L/9R on current commercial chart. No signage at taxiway W-2. Recommendations: issue proper charts in timely fashion. Both pilots 'follow' taxi progress at all times. Run checklist with brakes set during low visibility taxi. Supplemental information from acn 258577: taxi clearance 06, fox, whiskey, to 3R. I looked outside and saw 2 runway hold short signs. They read 3R/21L and 9R/27L. Not remembering a 9R/27L on the chart, I quickly consulted the airport diagram. This mystery runway was not depicted. Confused, I looked outside for a W2 or W1 sign. None were found. Therefore, the captain and myself believed we were at the approach end of the runway. The following events would prevent any recurrence. Dtw tower have ground radar. Construction of major runway and taxiway projects be noted on charts appropriately before they are started.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR LGT HELD SHORT OF A RWY, BUT NOT AT THE END WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
Narrative: FLT WAS INSTRUCTED TO TAXI TO RWY 3R (STANDING TAXI). AFTER PASSING W-3, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO 'TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD.' I LOOKED UP AND SAW THE 'HOLD SHORT' LIGHTS AND SIGNS OF RWY 27L/9R, CHKED MY MAP, DID NOT SEE RWY 27L DEPICTED AND ASSUMED WE WERE AT THE APCH END OF RWY 3R. I CALLED FOR THE CHKLIST WHILE HOLDING SHORT OF THE HOLD SHORT POINT FOR RWY 3R. AS WE COMPLETED THE CHKLIST, A CPR MLG PASSED OUR POS ON ITS TKOF ROLL. WE CONFIRMED OUR CLRNC WITH THE TWR AND BACK TAXIED TO RWY 3R APCH END. BEFORE DEPARTING, WE BRIEFED THE TWR AS TO THE PROB (NO CHART DEPICTION) AND OFFERED ADVICE TO REMEDY THE SIT. PROB: NO CHART DEPICTION OF RWY 27L/9R ON CURRENT COMMERCIAL CHART. NO SIGNAGE AT TXWY W-2. RECOMMENDATIONS: ISSUE PROPER CHARTS IN TIMELY FASHION. BOTH PLTS 'FOLLOW' TAXI PROGRESS AT ALL TIMES. RUN CHKLIST WITH BRAKES SET DURING LOW VISIBILITY TAXI. SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION FROM ACN 258577: TAXI CLRNC 06, FOX, WHISKEY, TO 3R. I LOOKED OUTSIDE AND SAW 2 RWY HOLD SHORT SIGNS. THEY READ 3R/21L AND 9R/27L. NOT REMEMBERING A 9R/27L ON THE CHART, I QUICKLY CONSULTED THE ARPT DIAGRAM. THIS MYSTERY RWY WAS NOT DEPICTED. CONFUSED, I LOOKED OUTSIDE FOR A W2 OR W1 SIGN. NONE WERE FOUND. THEREFORE, THE CAPT AND MYSELF BELIEVED WE WERE AT THE APCH END OF THE RWY. THE FOLLOWING EVENTS WOULD PREVENT ANY RECURRENCE. DTW TWR HAVE GND RADAR. CONSTRUCTION OF MAJOR RWY AND TXWY PROJECTS BE NOTED ON CHARTS APPROPRIATELY BEFORE THEY ARE STARTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.