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Air carrier medium large transport uses new preferred route as designated by airline management policy without meeting the MEL requirements.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 261055 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199401 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zjx |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 28000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx tower : stl |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute : other oceanic enroute : atlantic enroute airway : zma enroute airway : zjx |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2800 |
| ASRS Report | 261055 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : provided flight assist other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Our company has recently received FAA authorization to fly super 80's on limited overwater rtes. We were flying from lga to pbi and filed along ar-7 and ar-1. Well, not all of the limited overwater aircraft have omega's. Consequently all we had to use were NDB's/ADF's for navigation, and to make matters worse, only one of 'em. What actually happened was that ATC wound up giving us drift killed vectors for the entire flight down to pbi. We (on board) did our best to maintain course and centerline by killing the drift, xchking the couple of vors we could (i.e., chs, sav, craig, etc). However, ZJX and ZMA still wound up vectoring us the entire way down along the coast. For the return flight (pbi to lga) I refused to fly over water and insisted upon going up north via the overland route.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG USES NEW PREFERRED RTE AS DESIGNATED BY AIRLINE MGMNT POLICY WITHOUT MEETING THE MEL REQUIREMENTS.
Narrative: OUR COMPANY HAS RECENTLY RECEIVED FAA AUTHORIZATION TO FLY SUPER 80'S ON LIMITED OVERWATER RTES. WE WERE FLYING FROM LGA TO PBI AND FILED ALONG AR-7 AND AR-1. WELL, NOT ALL OF THE LIMITED OVERWATER ACFT HAVE OMEGA'S. CONSEQUENTLY ALL WE HAD TO USE WERE NDB'S/ADF'S FOR NAV, AND TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE, ONLY ONE OF 'EM. WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED WAS THAT ATC WOUND UP GIVING US DRIFT KILLED VECTORS FOR THE ENTIRE FLT DOWN TO PBI. WE (ON BOARD) DID OUR BEST TO MAINTAIN COURSE AND CTRLINE BY KILLING THE DRIFT, XCHKING THE COUPLE OF VORS WE COULD (I.E., CHS, SAV, CRAIG, ETC). HOWEVER, ZJX AND ZMA STILL WOUND UP VECTORING US THE ENTIRE WAY DOWN ALONG THE COAST. FOR THE RETURN FLT (PBI TO LGA) I REFUSED TO FLY OVER WATER AND INSISTED UPON GOING UP N VIA THE OVERLAND RTE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.