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Attributes | |
ACN | 263981 |
Time | |
Date | 199402 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ard |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Gulfstream IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : zdc |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Super King Air 300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 2 controller radar : 13 |
ASRS Report | 263981 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
The G4 X was at 12000 ft waiting for descent clearance to cross ard at 8000 ft. The BE30 Y was at 11000 ft waiting for clearance to cross and at 7000 ft. Add to this the fact that the G4's call sign was similar to the BE30's call sign. Throw in an extremely complicated sector, and a pilot who forgets to descend necessitating a ton of pointouts, and a near impossible descent profile required on this particular STAR and you have the recipe for this near miss. When both of these aircraft arrived at the same place at the same time with data tags overlapping, both needing a descent clearance at the same time. The aircraft on top was inadvertently descended through the other aircraft's airspace. We have been reporting to the FAA for yrs that this arrival procedure is dangerous and nearly impossible to execute given the amount of airspace needed and the actual amount allotted for this purpose. The arrs in question are the METRO3 (jets -- teb) and ARD2 (propellers -- teb).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: G4 DSCNT THROUGH OCCUPIED ALT HAD LTSS FORM BE30. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: THE G4 X WAS AT 12000 FT WAITING FOR DSCNT CLRNC TO CROSS ARD AT 8000 FT. THE BE30 Y WAS AT 11000 FT WAITING FOR CLRNC TO CROSS AND AT 7000 FT. ADD TO THIS THE FACT THAT THE G4'S CALL SIGN WAS SIMILAR TO THE BE30'S CALL SIGN. THROW IN AN EXTREMELY COMPLICATED SECTOR, AND A PLT WHO FORGETS TO DSND NECESSITATING A TON OF POINTOUTS, AND A NEAR IMPOSSIBLE DSCNT PROFILE REQUIRED ON THIS PARTICULAR STAR AND YOU HAVE THE RECIPE FOR THIS NEAR MISS. WHEN BOTH OF THESE ACFT ARRIVED AT THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME WITH DATA TAGS OVERLAPPING, BOTH NEEDING A DSCNT CLRNC AT THE SAME TIME. THE ACFT ON TOP WAS INADVERTENTLY DSNDED THROUGH THE OTHER ACFT'S AIRSPACE. WE HAVE BEEN RPTING TO THE FAA FOR YRS THAT THIS ARR PROC IS DANGEROUS AND NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO EXECUTE GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF AIRSPACE NEEDED AND THE ACTUAL AMOUNT ALLOTTED FOR THIS PURPOSE. THE ARRS IN QUESTION ARE THE METRO3 (JETS -- TEB) AND ARD2 (PROPS -- TEB).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.