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Attributes | |
ACN | 265160 |
Time | |
Date | 199402 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny tower : isp |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 265160 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On climb out from lga we were receiving erratic navigation signals from several vors. Also were noting dr lights intermittently on our omega. ATC gave us a couple of vectors towards fixes which were up to 20 degrees off our course even though we showed centered on both HSI's and our ONS. We did 2 precision updates on the ONS and still were getting dr lights. Asked the flight attendants to walk through the cabin and check for cellular phones, radios, etc. Upon inspection, 1 cellular phone had been used and was still on and 1 portable radio was still being used. Once these items were shut off all indications were normal. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: reporter revealed that this passenger had been told before this to not use the phone, but that was in the pretkof briefing and referred to 10000 ft and below. This had occurred from 17000 ft to FL280 so the ban is incorrect in the assumption that 10000 ft is the altitude limit on these occurrences. Passenger denied using the phone at this point but it was then revealed that the phone was not transmitting but was in T he 'on' position, taking incoming pages if need be, in a standby position. Reporter had no idea that aircraft was off course until ATC called.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PAX USE OF CELLULAR PHONE CAUSES HDG TRACK POS DEV.
Narrative: ON CLBOUT FROM LGA WE WERE RECEIVING ERRATIC NAV SIGNALS FROM SEVERAL VORS. ALSO WERE NOTING DR LIGHTS INTERMITTENTLY ON OUR OMEGA. ATC GAVE US A COUPLE OF VECTORS TOWARDS FIXES WHICH WERE UP TO 20 DEGS OFF OUR COURSE EVEN THOUGH WE SHOWED CTRED ON BOTH HSI'S AND OUR ONS. WE DID 2 PRECISION UPDATES ON THE ONS AND STILL WERE GETTING DR LIGHTS. ASKED THE FLT ATTENDANTS TO WALK THROUGH THE CABIN AND CHK FOR CELLULAR PHONES, RADIOS, ETC. UPON INSPECTION, 1 CELLULAR PHONE HAD BEEN USED AND WAS STILL ON AND 1 PORTABLE RADIO WAS STILL BEING USED. ONCE THESE ITEMS WERE SHUT OFF ALL INDICATIONS WERE NORMAL. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR REVEALED THAT THIS PAX HAD BEEN TOLD BEFORE THIS TO NOT USE THE PHONE, BUT THAT WAS IN THE PRETKOF BRIEFING AND REFERRED TO 10000 FT AND BELOW. THIS HAD OCCURRED FROM 17000 FT TO FL280 SO THE BAN IS INCORRECT IN THE ASSUMPTION THAT 10000 FT IS THE ALT LIMIT ON THESE OCCURRENCES. PAX DENIED USING THE PHONE AT THIS POINT BUT IT WAS THEN REVEALED THAT THE PHONE WAS NOT XMITTING BUT WAS IN T HE 'ON' POS, TAKING INCOMING PAGES IF NEED BE, IN A STANDBY POS. RPTR HAD NO IDEA THAT ACFT WAS OFF COURSE UNTIL ATC CALLED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.