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Attributes | |
ACN | 268745 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pfn |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 268745 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Prior to landing -- copilot and I discussed pfn NOTAM -- 'landing on runway 14 and exiting taxiway 'F' -- make 90 degree turn on taxiway 'a'. Do not continue on taxiway 'F' into general parking as it is not stressed for weight.' there are 2 txwys off of 'east': 1 going into general aviation parking and 1 going to ramp. In reading NOTAM I understood the NOTAM to mean not to go into the general aviation ramp -- we didn't. After passing the parallel taxiway and approaching the 'restr' taxiway (not knowing at the time), tower informed us that the taxiway ahead was not stressed for air carriers -- however, that md-80 aircraft (our type) are often parked on this taxiway and proceed with caution -- being careful of a bump at the end. We proceeded with no problems. In reviewing the incident, I would make 2 recommendations: 1) change the airport plate to reflect this limited taxiway as it is depicted now. It looks like a 'normal' taxiway: 2) specify the NOTAM to more specifically reflect the proper taxiway to use, i.e., 'when landing on runway 14 and turning off on txwys F, G or at the end, acrs should use taxiway 'east' to taxi to the ramp -- do not use the taxiway between 'F' and 'a' intersection to get to the ramp.' perhaps this taxiway should be named and identified. As a 'light weight' aircraft taxiway only. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporting captain did not include his phone number or the city of his residence, so this veteran, grizzled. Analyst called the pfn tower. The gentleman that answered the phone states that this is an 'ongoing problem.' the entry into the terminal ramp 'is not marked, or poorly marked at best.' the pfn tower has tried to have the airport manager erect signs or do some painting on the txwys, but nothing has happened. The pfn tower person believes that the 'NOTAM' that the reporter refers to is actually a company bulletin on this subject as there is no NOTAM published. The tower person knows of at least 2 acrs that publish pages outlining this problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG TAXIED THROUGH GENERAL AVIATION PARKING ON AN UNSTRESSED TXWY.
Narrative: PRIOR TO LNDG -- COPLT AND I DISCUSSED PFN NOTAM -- 'LNDG ON RWY 14 AND EXITING TXWY 'F' -- MAKE 90 DEG TURN ON TXWY 'A'. DO NOT CONTINUE ON TXWY 'F' INTO GENERAL PARKING AS IT IS NOT STRESSED FOR WT.' THERE ARE 2 TXWYS OFF OF 'E': 1 GOING INTO GENERAL AVIATION PARKING AND 1 GOING TO RAMP. IN READING NOTAM I UNDERSTOOD THE NOTAM TO MEAN NOT TO GO INTO THE GENERAL AVIATION RAMP -- WE DIDN'T. AFTER PASSING THE PARALLEL TXWY AND APCHING THE 'RESTR' TXWY (NOT KNOWING AT THE TIME), TWR INFORMED US THAT THE TXWY AHEAD WAS NOT STRESSED FOR AIR CARRIERS -- HOWEVER, THAT MD-80 ACFT (OUR TYPE) ARE OFTEN PARKED ON THIS TXWY AND PROCEED WITH CAUTION -- BEING CAREFUL OF A BUMP AT THE END. WE PROCEEDED WITH NO PROBS. IN REVIEWING THE INCIDENT, I WOULD MAKE 2 RECOMMENDATIONS: 1) CHANGE THE ARPT PLATE TO REFLECT THIS LIMITED TXWY AS IT IS DEPICTED NOW. IT LOOKS LIKE A 'NORMAL' TXWY: 2) SPECIFY THE NOTAM TO MORE SPECIFICALLY REFLECT THE PROPER TXWY TO USE, I.E., 'WHEN LNDG ON RWY 14 AND TURNING OFF ON TXWYS F, G OR AT THE END, ACRS SHOULD USE TXWY 'E' TO TAXI TO THE RAMP -- DO NOT USE THE TXWY BTWN 'F' AND 'A' INTXN TO GET TO THE RAMP.' PERHAPS THIS TXWY SHOULD BE NAMED AND IDENTIFIED. AS A 'LIGHT WT' ACFT TXWY ONLY. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTING CAPT DID NOT INCLUDE HIS PHONE NUMBER OR THE CITY OF HIS RESIDENCE, SO THIS VETERAN, GRIZZLED. ANALYST CALLED THE PFN TWR. THE GENTLEMAN THAT ANSWERED THE PHONE STATES THAT THIS IS AN 'ONGOING PROB.' THE ENTRY INTO THE TERMINAL RAMP 'IS NOT MARKED, OR POORLY MARKED AT BEST.' THE PFN TWR HAS TRIED TO HAVE THE ARPT MGR ERECT SIGNS OR DO SOME PAINTING ON THE TXWYS, BUT NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. THE PFN TWR PERSON BELIEVES THAT THE 'NOTAM' THAT THE RPTR REFERS TO IS ACTUALLY A COMPANY BULLETIN ON THIS SUBJECT AS THERE IS NO NOTAM PUBLISHED. THE TWR PERSON KNOWS OF AT LEAST 2 ACRS THAT PUBLISH PAGES OUTLINING THIS PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.