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Attributes | |
ACN | 270070 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : okc |
State Reference | OK |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 38700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Falcon 20G/20GF/ Mysterre Falcon 200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 270070 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cruising at 37000 ft, went to do an engine check, got clearance to FL390, reaching 38700 ft, right engine flamed out. We pushed the nose over so left engine wouldn't flame out. During all of this, the controller was speaking to another aircraft and we descended to FL350. Told the controller what situation was. The problem I have is we descended to FL350 without permission because controller was talking, and we needed to get down right then. Finally made communication with ATC to descend to FL350, then down to FL280 and relit the #2 engine. During all of this, we did not declare an emergency. (I'm just concerned about leaving 38700 ft without ATC clearance to FL350!)
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 1 ENG FLAMED OUT DURING HIGH ALT CRUISE RESULTING IN LOSS OF ALT.
Narrative: CRUISING AT 37000 FT, WENT TO DO AN ENG CHK, GOT CLRNC TO FL390, REACHING 38700 FT, R ENG FLAMED OUT. WE PUSHED THE NOSE OVER SO L ENG WOULDN'T FLAME OUT. DURING ALL OF THIS, THE CTLR WAS SPEAKING TO ANOTHER ACFT AND WE DSNDED TO FL350. TOLD THE CTLR WHAT SIT WAS. THE PROB I HAVE IS WE DSNDED TO FL350 WITHOUT PERMISSION BECAUSE CTLR WAS TALKING, AND WE NEEDED TO GET DOWN RIGHT THEN. FINALLY MADE COM WITH ATC TO DSND TO FL350, THEN DOWN TO FL280 AND RELIT THE #2 ENG. DURING ALL OF THIS, WE DID NOT DECLARE AN EMER. (I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT LEAVING 38700 FT WITHOUT ATC CLRNC TO FL350!)
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.