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Attributes | |
ACN | 270421 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12500 msl bound upper : 12510 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : ord |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 1090 flight time type : 20 |
ASRS Report | 270421 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flying northwest bound san diego (myf) to san luis obispo (sbp) over class B (TCA) lax VFR on top, clouds at 1500 ft, tops 2600 ft. Used flight following san diego approach, coast approach, la approach going north intended to fly over class B at 12500 ft (which is also the top ceiling of controled airspace). I thought airspace was up to 'but not including' 12500 ft for class B, lax. When controller questioned my intentions for route of flight I stated 12500 ft would be my altitude. 'Above class B' no further problem over TCA. However, I did stay slightly higher, 12510 ft to be sure on top until I checked rule. I spoke to san diego approach TRACON supervisor later to clarify must be 12501.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMT PLT IN CLOSE PROX TO TCA-B AIRSPACE IN LAX VFR CORRIDOR.
Narrative: FLYING NW BOUND SAN DIEGO (MYF) TO SAN LUIS OBISPO (SBP) OVER CLASS B (TCA) LAX VFR ON TOP, CLOUDS AT 1500 FT, TOPS 2600 FT. USED FLT FOLLOWING SAN DIEGO APCH, COAST APCH, LA APCH GOING N INTENDED TO FLY OVER CLASS B AT 12500 FT (WHICH IS ALSO THE TOP CEILING OF CTLED AIRSPACE). I THOUGHT AIRSPACE WAS UP TO 'BUT NOT INCLUDING' 12500 FT FOR CLASS B, LAX. WHEN CTLR QUESTIONED MY INTENTIONS FOR RTE OF FLT I STATED 12500 FT WOULD BE MY ALT. 'ABOVE CLASS B' NO FURTHER PROB OVER TCA. HOWEVER, I DID STAY SLIGHTLY HIGHER, 12510 FT TO BE SURE ON TOP UNTIL I CHKED RULE. I SPOKE TO SAN DIEGO APCH TRACON SUPVR LATER TO CLARIFY MUST BE 12501.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.