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Attributes | |
ACN | 271227 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lit |
State Reference | AR |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing other other other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : lit |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 2 flight time total : 3600 flight time type : 2 |
ASRS Report | 271227 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Was giving instrument training to friend. While holding over lit VOR we had a total electrical failure. Training was VFR and pilot was not wearing a hood. Pilot had no idea what to do or how to land (2000 plus hours). I suggested he fly toward the tower which is approximately 3 NM from VOR. Not to cross any runways and to wag his wings to get ATC attention and look for green light. We received a flashing green light so we flew downwind to runway. We received another flashing green light. Due to myself not flying hardly any or instructing within the last 90 days, I could not remember if we needed a flashing green light or steady green. We both thought we received a steady green before turning base leg, but was hard to tell due to haze and late afternoon. We both still could not remember which light we needed. Checking for traffic and not seeing any, we landed. After entering taxiway we looked for additional light signals, but did not see any, so we taxied to FBO. After returning to FBO, I looked in the aim to check on light signals. My lesson: although I was not PIC I still should have reviewed rules, regulations, etc before flying again since it had been a long time and the student is always going to assume the instructor will know what to do (and he should).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DURING A NIGHT INST TRAINING FLT IN A SMA SEL, WHILE HOLDING NEAR THE ARPT, TOTAL ELECTRICAL FAILURE WAS EXPERIENCED. TWR LIGHT SIGNALS WERE USED TO RETURN AND LAND.
Narrative: WAS GIVING INST TRAINING TO FRIEND. WHILE HOLDING OVER LIT VOR WE HAD A TOTAL ELECTRICAL FAILURE. TRAINING WAS VFR AND PLT WAS NOT WEARING A HOOD. PLT HAD NO IDEA WHAT TO DO OR HOW TO LAND (2000 PLUS HRS). I SUGGESTED HE FLY TOWARD THE TWR WHICH IS APPROX 3 NM FROM VOR. NOT TO CROSS ANY RWYS AND TO WAG HIS WINGS TO GET ATC ATTN AND LOOK FOR GREEN LIGHT. WE RECEIVED A FLASHING GREEN LIGHT SO WE FLEW DOWNWIND TO RWY. WE RECEIVED ANOTHER FLASHING GREEN LIGHT. DUE TO MYSELF NOT FLYING HARDLY ANY OR INSTRUCTING WITHIN THE LAST 90 DAYS, I COULD NOT REMEMBER IF WE NEEDED A FLASHING GREEN LIGHT OR STEADY GREEN. WE BOTH THOUGHT WE RECEIVED A STEADY GREEN BEFORE TURNING BASE LEG, BUT WAS HARD TO TELL DUE TO HAZE AND LATE AFTERNOON. WE BOTH STILL COULD NOT REMEMBER WHICH LIGHT WE NEEDED. CHKING FOR TFC AND NOT SEEING ANY, WE LANDED. AFTER ENTERING TXWY WE LOOKED FOR ADDITIONAL LIGHT SIGNALS, BUT DID NOT SEE ANY, SO WE TAXIED TO FBO. AFTER RETURNING TO FBO, I LOOKED IN THE AIM TO CHK ON LIGHT SIGNALS. MY LESSON: ALTHOUGH I WAS NOT PIC I STILL SHOULD HAVE REVIEWED RULES, REGS, ETC BEFORE FLYING AGAIN SINCE IT HAD BEEN A LONG TIME AND THE STUDENT IS ALWAYS GOING TO ASSUME THE INSTRUCTOR WILL KNOW WHAT TO DO (AND HE SHOULD).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.