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Attributes | |
ACN | 271517 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bdl |
State Reference | CT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : bdl |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 1410 flight time type : 3 |
ASRS Report | 271517 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : overcame equipment problem other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Although I'm a cfii with 150 plus hours in sel complex, I only had 3 hours in this aircraft (PA32R-300). I needed more hours to satisfy insurance requirements for check-out, so I flew as l-seat pilot with a properly qualified and checked- out cfii in r-seat. Although IMC was forecast for route, no ice was forecast (I asked specifically during FSS WX brief). After I had hand-flown hard IFR for 60 plus mins at 7000 and 9000, I let the r-hand cfii fly for 10 mins while I relaxed, refolded maps, etc. Aircraft was cruising at 160 mph indicated. While I was checking chart to retune navigation radios, r-hand cfii remarked on airspeed 70 mph indicated! I checked left wing for ice (yes), and pitot heat on (no!). I turned on pitot heat and waited for airspeed to increase -- altimeter still 9000! When airspeed dropped to 60-65 mph, I asked ATC to descend to 7000 ft 'now.' ATC was unable due to no control over lower altitudes. I stated aircraft will descend to 7000! Now.' ATC asked if I was declaring emergency and I confirmed 'affirmative.' as we descended, airspeed increased steadily, to 180-190 mph indicated, and we levelled smoothly at 7000! Passing 7200 ft. I advised ATC that problem was resolved and assured ATC 'no need of further assistance.' flight proceeded routinely thereafter, though we obtained approval to descend to 5000 ft a few mins later, to remove remaining ice. Nothing more was said about our brief emergency. Learning conclusions: 1) always keep pitot heat on in visible moisture below 40 degrees F, even if ice is not forecast. 2) always monitor your instructor's performance as well as you hope he/she is monitoring yours!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLTS FAILED TO TURN ON PITOT HEAT IN WX.
Narrative: ALTHOUGH I'M A CFII WITH 150 PLUS HRS IN SEL COMPLEX, I ONLY HAD 3 HRS IN THIS ACFT (PA32R-300). I NEEDED MORE HRS TO SATISFY INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR CHK-OUT, SO I FLEW AS L-SEAT PLT WITH A PROPERLY QUALIFIED AND CHKED- OUT CFII IN R-SEAT. ALTHOUGH IMC WAS FORECAST FOR RTE, NO ICE WAS FORECAST (I ASKED SPECIFICALLY DURING FSS WX BRIEF). AFTER I HAD HAND-FLOWN HARD IFR FOR 60 PLUS MINS AT 7000 AND 9000, I LET THE R-HAND CFII FLY FOR 10 MINS WHILE I RELAXED, REFOLDED MAPS, ETC. ACFT WAS CRUISING AT 160 MPH INDICATED. WHILE I WAS CHKING CHART TO RETUNE NAV RADIOS, R-HAND CFII REMARKED ON AIRSPD 70 MPH INDICATED! I CHKED L WING FOR ICE (YES), AND PITOT HEAT ON (NO!). I TURNED ON PITOT HEAT AND WAITED FOR AIRSPD TO INCREASE -- ALTIMETER STILL 9000! WHEN AIRSPD DROPPED TO 60-65 MPH, I ASKED ATC TO DSND TO 7000 FT 'NOW.' ATC WAS UNABLE DUE TO NO CTL OVER LOWER ALTS. I STATED ACFT WILL DSND TO 7000! NOW.' ATC ASKED IF I WAS DECLARING EMER AND I CONFIRMED 'AFFIRMATIVE.' AS WE DSNDED, AIRSPD INCREASED STEADILY, TO 180-190 MPH INDICATED, AND WE LEVELLED SMOOTHLY AT 7000! PASSING 7200 FT. I ADVISED ATC THAT PROB WAS RESOLVED AND ASSURED ATC 'NO NEED OF FURTHER ASSISTANCE.' FLT PROCEEDED ROUTINELY THEREAFTER, THOUGH WE OBTAINED APPROVAL TO DSND TO 5000 FT A FEW MINS LATER, TO REMOVE REMAINING ICE. NOTHING MORE WAS SAID ABOUT OUR BRIEF EMER. LEARNING CONCLUSIONS: 1) ALWAYS KEEP PITOT HEAT ON IN VISIBLE MOISTURE BELOW 40 DEGS F, EVEN IF ICE IS NOT FORECAST. 2) ALWAYS MONITOR YOUR INSTRUCTOR'S PERFORMANCE AS WELL AS YOU HOPE HE/SHE IS MONITORING YOURS!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.