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Flight crew of medium large transport stopped descent and climbed in response to a TCASII RA and the visual sighting of a formation flight of 8 F14 military aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 272794 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199405 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sfk |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 20000 msl bound upper : 20000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Military |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 3 |
| ASRS Report | 272794 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 600 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Flight cleared to cross marc at FL180 (lga mip.MIP8). Passing FL200 received a TA then almost immediately a climb RA. The traffic was a flight of 8 F-14's in a tight V form. Acquired visual contact with traffic. Estimated lateral separation at 1/2 mi and about 600-700 ft vertical separation while still climbing per climb RA at the closest point.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF MLG STOPPED DSCNT AND CLBED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA AND THE VISUAL SIGHTING OF A FORMATION FLT OF 8 F14 MIL ACFT.
Narrative: FLT CLRED TO CROSS MARC AT FL180 (LGA MIP.MIP8). PASSING FL200 RECEIVED A TA THEN ALMOST IMMEDIATELY A CLB RA. THE TFC WAS A FLT OF 8 F-14'S IN A TIGHT V FORM. ACQUIRED VISUAL CONTACT WITH TFC. ESTIMATED LATERAL SEPARATION AT 1/2 MI AND ABOUT 600-700 FT VERT SEPARATION WHILE STILL CLBING PER CLB RA AT THE CLOSEST POINT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.