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PA24 had near midair collision with military helicopter in air traffic area. Evasive action taken. See and avoid concept.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 274080 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199406 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : lns |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lns |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | S-70 Black Hawk/Night Hawk/Sea Hawk |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-24 Comanche |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Experience | controller military : 4 controller non radar : 16 |
| ASRS Report | 274080 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : military |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : military |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Military X UH60 pattern work (training). Pilot earlier was issued left traffic runway 26, entered left traffic runway 8. UH60 was extended downwind for traffic. PA24 VFR inbound reported 5 mi east for runway 26 (2ND call and report as requested). Traffic was exchanged. Both aircraft acknowledged. PA24 then said UH60 was coming at him. Military trainers are bad news. They do not have a clue. VFR civil have false sense that all towers have radar (BRITE) capability. Visibility was poor with haze. But, as a pilot and controller, how can you not see a UH60? Almost in your face!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA24 HAD NMAC WITH MIL HELI IN ATA. EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.
Narrative: MIL X UH60 PATTERN WORK (TRAINING). PLT EARLIER WAS ISSUED L TFC RWY 26, ENTERED L TFC RWY 8. UH60 WAS EXTENDED DOWNWIND FOR TFC. PA24 VFR INBOUND RPTED 5 MI E FOR RWY 26 (2ND CALL AND RPT AS REQUESTED). TFC WAS EXCHANGED. BOTH ACFT ACKNOWLEDGED. PA24 THEN SAID UH60 WAS COMING AT HIM. MIL TRAINERS ARE BAD NEWS. THEY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE. VFR CIVIL HAVE FALSE SENSE THAT ALL TWRS HAVE RADAR (BRITE) CAPABILITY. VISIBILITY WAS POOR WITH HAZE. BUT, AS A PLT AND CTLR, HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE A UH60? ALMOST IN YOUR FACE!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.