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Attributes | |
ACN | 276674 |
Time | |
Date | 199407 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr |
State Reference | NJ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : ewr |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
ASRS Report | 276674 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure Operational Deviation Operational Error |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
A H/B767/right is on final with N90 followed by a T/B757/right 4 1/2 mi intrail and faster. So no separation is being used and it goes down to less than 4 mi by the time they switch to ewr tower you need 5 mi and every day we get less than 5 mi behind heavies. During my session I had to cancel approach clrncs to at least 3 other aircraft. We have met with N90 in the past and their answer to lack of separation behind heavies is send them around. This punishes the airlines for N90 lack of controling abilities.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: APCH CTLR DID NOT ENSURE WAKE TURB SEPARATION BEHIND A HVY JET. RPTR INDICATES THAT THIS IS AN ON-GOING PROB AND THAT PREVIOUS INTERFAC DISCUSSIONS HAVE NOT RESOLVED THE PROB.
Narrative: A H/B767/R IS ON FINAL WITH N90 FOLLOWED BY A T/B757/R 4 1/2 MI INTRAIL AND FASTER. SO NO SEPARATION IS BEING USED AND IT GOES DOWN TO LESS THAN 4 MI BY THE TIME THEY SWITCH TO EWR TWR YOU NEED 5 MI AND EVERY DAY WE GET LESS THAN 5 MI BEHIND HEAVIES. DURING MY SESSION I HAD TO CANCEL APCH CLRNCS TO AT LEAST 3 OTHER ACFT. WE HAVE MET WITH N90 IN THE PAST AND THEIR ANSWER TO LACK OF SEPARATION BEHIND HEAVIES IS SEND THEM AROUND. THIS PUNISHES THE AIRLINES FOR N90 LACK OF CTLING ABILITIES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.