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Attributes | |
ACN | 278572 |
Time | |
Date | 199407 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : iah |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 18000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 278572 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I felt a rapid climb in cabin pressurization and looked back to engineer's panel. He exclaimed 'I've lost the cabin' which I took to mean a complete depressurization. The captain told me to begin a descent. I put on my oxygen mask and nosed the aircraft over while looking for traffic on TCASII thinking we had a complete depressurization, I announced on the PA for passenger to put on oxygen masks. The masks had not deployed because we hadn't 'lost the cabin,' it was just climbing rapidly. The #1 flight attendant informed the engineer the masks were not down so he deployed them manually without realizing the cabin wasn't over 10000 ft. He had tried to ask the captain if he should, but it was impossible to communication with masks on and hot mikes. The procedure to put mikes to emergency caused the problem because of the inability for the captain to hear either center when he requested emergency descent or the engineer. We descended from FL240 to 18000 ft without knowing if center acknowledged our intentions. We continued flight at 10000 ft with no further incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC MISTAKENLY BELIEVES THEY LOST CABIN PRESSURIZATION.
Narrative: I FELT A RAPID CLB IN CABIN PRESSURIZATION AND LOOKED BACK TO ENGINEER'S PANEL. HE EXCLAIMED 'I'VE LOST THE CABIN' WHICH I TOOK TO MEAN A COMPLETE DEPRESSURIZATION. THE CAPT TOLD ME TO BEGIN A DSCNT. I PUT ON MY OXYGEN MASK AND NOSED THE ACFT OVER WHILE LOOKING FOR TFC ON TCASII THINKING WE HAD A COMPLETE DEPRESSURIZATION, I ANNOUNCED ON THE PA FOR PAX TO PUT ON OXYGEN MASKS. THE MASKS HAD NOT DEPLOYED BECAUSE WE HADN'T 'LOST THE CABIN,' IT WAS JUST CLBING RAPIDLY. THE #1 FLT ATTENDANT INFORMED THE ENGINEER THE MASKS WERE NOT DOWN SO HE DEPLOYED THEM MANUALLY WITHOUT REALIZING THE CABIN WASN'T OVER 10000 FT. HE HAD TRIED TO ASK THE CAPT IF HE SHOULD, BUT IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO COM WITH MASKS ON AND HOT MIKES. THE PROC TO PUT MIKES TO EMER CAUSED THE PROB BECAUSE OF THE INABILITY FOR THE CAPT TO HEAR EITHER CTR WHEN HE REQUESTED EMER DSCNT OR THE ENGINEER. WE DSNDED FROM FL240 TO 18000 FT WITHOUT KNOWING IF CTR ACKNOWLEDGED OUR INTENTIONS. WE CONTINUED FLT AT 10000 FT WITH NO FURTHER INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.