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Attributes | |
ACN | 280950 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : c75 |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | approach : circling |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 1500 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 280950 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | other personnel |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical inflight encounter : vfr in imc inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
Reporter was in a C-182 at 8500 ft en route to C75, il, on a VFR flight plan. There was a 'thud, thud' noise and that is when he noticed the alternator was off line. His destination airport, just 10 mins away was the closest charted airport so he continued to destination. The uni operator gave the WX report of 1/8TH of a mi and intimated he might get in. Reporter went through a number of maneuvers in various approachs to various runways and finally landed on runway 31, after circling in about 1 1/4 mi visibility conditions, landing on a runway that was partly covered with fog, cloud tops had been about 350 ft. The uni operator had suggested, as an alternate plan, to use 'varna, 10 mi east with rla available.' reporter states that his decision to land in the fog was based upon that phraseology that he couldn't interpretation and his aircraft's condition and lowering battery power. Turns out the uni operator is also an FAA inspector, who later said he wouldn't violate him...reporter is upset because the chart that had the 'vla' is not published except in illinois, being a 2000 ft grass strip. (Rla means restr landing area.) reporter wants the local airport operators to realize that transient pilots may not know their 'slang terms,' wants the 'rla' type grass emergency airports charted on NOAA charts, not state printed charts. He also reported the fact that he had failed to tell the uni operator of his equipment situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT EQUIP PROB COMPOUNDED BY TERMINAL AREA WX FOR A C- 182 PLT.
Narrative: RPTR WAS IN A C-182 AT 8500 FT ENRTE TO C75, IL, ON A VFR FLT PLAN. THERE WAS A 'THUD, THUD' NOISE AND THAT IS WHEN HE NOTICED THE ALTERNATOR WAS OFF LINE. HIS DEST ARPT, JUST 10 MINS AWAY WAS THE CLOSEST CHARTED ARPT SO HE CONTINUED TO DEST. THE UNI OPERATOR GAVE THE WX RPT OF 1/8TH OF A MI AND INTIMATED HE MIGHT GET IN. RPTR WENT THROUGH A NUMBER OF MANEUVERS IN VARIOUS APCHS TO VARIOUS RWYS AND FINALLY LANDED ON RWY 31, AFTER CIRCLING IN ABOUT 1 1/4 MI VISIBILITY CONDITIONS, LNDG ON A RWY THAT WAS PARTLY COVERED WITH FOG, CLOUD TOPS HAD BEEN ABOUT 350 FT. THE UNI OPERATOR HAD SUGGESTED, AS AN ALTERNATE PLAN, TO USE 'VARNA, 10 MI E WITH RLA AVAILABLE.' RPTR STATES THAT HIS DECISION TO LAND IN THE FOG WAS BASED UPON THAT PHRASEOLOGY THAT HE COULDN'T INTERP AND HIS ACFT'S CONDITION AND LOWERING BATTERY PWR. TURNS OUT THE UNI OPERATOR IS ALSO AN FAA INSPECTOR, WHO LATER SAID HE WOULDN'T VIOLATE HIM...RPTR IS UPSET BECAUSE THE CHART THAT HAD THE 'VLA' IS NOT PUBLISHED EXCEPT IN ILLINOIS, BEING A 2000 FT GRASS STRIP. (RLA MEANS RESTR LNDG AREA.) RPTR WANTS THE LCL ARPT OPERATORS TO REALIZE THAT TRANSIENT PLTS MAY NOT KNOW THEIR 'SLANG TERMS,' WANTS THE 'RLA' TYPE GRASS EMER ARPTS CHARTED ON NOAA CHARTS, NOT STATE PRINTED CHARTS. HE ALSO RPTED THE FACT THAT HE HAD FAILED TO TELL THE UNI OPERATOR OF HIS EQUIP SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.