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Attributes | |
ACN | 281581 |
Time | |
Date | 199408 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hsv |
State Reference | AL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 5100 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 281581 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
In sum: reporter related the fact that he was pressured into flying long hours with a foreign student in order to meet the approved pilot school's contractual agreement with the student which allowed only 45 days to complete an instrument and commercial courses. He stated that while on a long, at least planned 6 hour x-c flight, he made the decision to extend it all night resulting in more than 9 hours. He believed that this would not violate the 8 hour instruction rule in 24 hours since he stopped for 1 1/2 hours, and over 2 different calendar days. However, since the FARS (61.195 a) specifies 'consecutive' hours of instruction, he was wrong. He and the student noted during the start of the last 2 or 3 hours of the flight that they were both very fatigued and hungry due to lack of rest and normal food. He further stated that the school was going to modify their contract to specify at least 90 days to complete these pilot courses.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT INSTRUCTOR OF AN FAA APPROVED PLT SCHOOL EXCEEDED THE FLT INSTRUCTION HR LIMITATIONS.
Narrative: IN SUM: RPTR RELATED THE FACT THAT HE WAS PRESSURED INTO FLYING LONG HRS WITH A FOREIGN STUDENT IN ORDER TO MEET THE APPROVED PLT SCHOOL'S CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH THE STUDENT WHICH ALLOWED ONLY 45 DAYS TO COMPLETE AN INST AND COMMERCIAL COURSES. HE STATED THAT WHILE ON A LONG, AT LEAST PLANNED 6 HR X-C FLT, HE MADE THE DECISION TO EXTEND IT ALL NIGHT RESULTING IN MORE THAN 9 HRS. HE BELIEVED THAT THIS WOULD NOT VIOLATE THE 8 HR INSTRUCTION RULE IN 24 HRS SINCE HE STOPPED FOR 1 1/2 HRS, AND OVER 2 DIFFERENT CALENDAR DAYS. HOWEVER, SINCE THE FARS (61.195 A) SPECIFIES 'CONSECUTIVE' HRS OF INSTRUCTION, HE WAS WRONG. HE AND THE STUDENT NOTED DURING THE START OF THE LAST 2 OR 3 HRS OF THE FLT THAT THEY WERE BOTH VERY FATIGUED AND HUNGRY DUE TO LACK OF REST AND NORMAL FOOD. HE FURTHER STATED THAT THE SCHOOL WAS GOING TO MODIFY THEIR CONTRACT TO SPECIFY AT LEAST 90 DAYS TO COMPLETE THESE PLT COURSES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.