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Attributes | |
ACN | 285397 |
Time | |
Date | 199410 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bur |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : observer other personnel other |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 43 flight time total : 603 flight time type : 244 |
ASRS Report | 285397 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : investigated Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Student was on his first solo to the practice area. All communications were normal and even exceptional. Departure, climb, and maneuvers were all performed normal. Inbound to burbank, approach control advised student to contact bur tower, he did so. Bur tower asked student to report 2 mi out, which he did. Between 2 mi and the threshold, tower asked for a '360' for sequencing. The student did this fine and rolled out on a high final. Being high, he used good judgement to initiat a go around. Tower told him to make right traffic runway 8. Upon turning base for runway 8, tower asked the student to 'amend' and make a right downwind for runway 15. Student got frustrated and stayed low (600 ft AGL) from base of runway 8 to downwind runway 15. Student reported 'abeam the numbers' and tower told him he was cleared to land, traffic on 2 mi final. The student appeared to be slightly fast but made a good landing. Then things happened. The left wing came up a little and the cessna 152 slid off the runway and came to a rest on the right side between runway 15 and taxiway B. Pilot, aircraft, and airport property were not damaged. Ground told student 'we will file an incident report and you and your instructor should expect a phone call from the FSDO.' I believe all the events prior to the final approach made the student frustrated and he wanted to get the airplane down. As a result, he may have landed at a higher than normal speed and once down, may have tried to steer the aircraft to the right with aileron, not rudder. We reconstructed this on a later dual flight and found that forward pressure with right aileron control made the aircraft slide to the right side of runway. I praise the student for his decision to go around at first. Since this incident, I emphasize correct airspeed control on departure/arrival segments. Also, we emphasize not using aileron for directional control on ground.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RWY EXCURSION BY STUDENT PLT AS TOLD BY HIS INSTRUCTOR FROM AFAR.
Narrative: STUDENT WAS ON HIS FIRST SOLO TO THE PRACTICE AREA. ALL COMS WERE NORMAL AND EVEN EXCEPTIONAL. DEP, CLB, AND MANEUVERS WERE ALL PERFORMED NORMAL. INBOUND TO BURBANK, APCH CTL ADVISED STUDENT TO CONTACT BUR TWR, HE DID SO. BUR TWR ASKED STUDENT TO RPT 2 MI OUT, WHICH HE DID. BTWN 2 MI AND THE THRESHOLD, TWR ASKED FOR A '360' FOR SEQUENCING. THE STUDENT DID THIS FINE AND ROLLED OUT ON A HIGH FINAL. BEING HIGH, HE USED GOOD JUDGEMENT TO INITIAT A GAR. TWR TOLD HIM TO MAKE R TFC RWY 8. UPON TURNING BASE FOR RWY 8, TWR ASKED THE STUDENT TO 'AMEND' AND MAKE A R DOWNWIND FOR RWY 15. STUDENT GOT FRUSTRATED AND STAYED LOW (600 FT AGL) FROM BASE OF RWY 8 TO DOWNWIND RWY 15. STUDENT RPTED 'ABEAM THE NUMBERS' AND TWR TOLD HIM HE WAS CLRED TO LAND, TFC ON 2 MI FINAL. THE STUDENT APPEARED TO BE SLIGHTLY FAST BUT MADE A GOOD LNDG. THEN THINGS HAPPENED. THE L WING CAME UP A LITTLE AND THE CESSNA 152 SLID OFF THE RWY AND CAME TO A REST ON THE R SIDE BTWN RWY 15 AND TXWY B. PLT, ACFT, AND ARPT PROPERTY WERE NOT DAMAGED. GND TOLD STUDENT 'WE WILL FILE AN INCIDENT RPT AND YOU AND YOUR INSTRUCTOR SHOULD EXPECT A PHONE CALL FROM THE FSDO.' I BELIEVE ALL THE EVENTS PRIOR TO THE FINAL APCH MADE THE STUDENT FRUSTRATED AND HE WANTED TO GET THE AIRPLANE DOWN. AS A RESULT, HE MAY HAVE LANDED AT A HIGHER THAN NORMAL SPD AND ONCE DOWN, MAY HAVE TRIED TO STEER THE ACFT TO THE R WITH AILERON, NOT RUDDER. WE RECONSTRUCTED THIS ON A LATER DUAL FLT AND FOUND THAT FORWARD PRESSURE WITH R AILERON CTL MADE THE ACFT SLIDE TO THE R SIDE OF RWY. I PRAISE THE STUDENT FOR HIS DECISION TO GAR AT FIRST. SINCE THIS INCIDENT, I EMPHASIZE CORRECT AIRSPD CTL ON DEP/ARR SEGMENTS. ALSO, WE EMPHASIZE NOT USING AILERON FOR DIRECTIONAL CTL ON GND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.