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Attributes | |
ACN | 285436 |
Time | |
Date | 199410 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gjt |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : zdv |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 240 |
ASRS Report | 285436 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 285315 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cruising at FL250, ZDV gave us a pilot's discretion to FL240. We acknowledged and remained at FL250. We were then told to contact ZDV on another frequency. After checking in with the new controller, he gave us what we thought was a pilot's discretion descent to 12000 ft. Apparently, we misunderstood his descent clearance. 3 or 4 mins later, he asked us what our altitude was -- with an irritated tone in his voice. We told him. Obviously angry with us, he let us know exactly what he wanted. We apologized for the misunderstanding and he gave us a frequency change. Supplemental information from acn 285315: we should have confirmed the pilot's discretion. Center should have followed up on the descent request.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER ACFT MISINTERPRETS DSCNT CLRNC. CTLR UPSET.
Narrative: CRUISING AT FL250, ZDV GAVE US A PLT'S DISCRETION TO FL240. WE ACKNOWLEDGED AND REMAINED AT FL250. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO CONTACT ZDV ON ANOTHER FREQ. AFTER CHKING IN WITH THE NEW CTLR, HE GAVE US WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A PLT'S DISCRETION DSCNT TO 12000 FT. APPARENTLY, WE MISUNDERSTOOD HIS DSCNT CLRNC. 3 OR 4 MINS LATER, HE ASKED US WHAT OUR ALT WAS -- WITH AN IRRITATED TONE IN HIS VOICE. WE TOLD HIM. OBVIOUSLY ANGRY WITH US, HE LET US KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED. WE APOLOGIZED FOR THE MISUNDERSTANDING AND HE GAVE US A FREQ CHANGE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 285315: WE SHOULD HAVE CONFIRMED THE PLT'S DISCRETION. CTR SHOULD HAVE FOLLOWED UP ON THE DSCNT REQUEST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.