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Attributes | |
ACN | 286914 |
Time | |
Date | 199410 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : arf airport : 8a0 |
State Reference | AL |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bhm |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | King Air 100 A/B |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 286914 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Cleared direct saratoga NDB, approach 20 mi south of 8a0. Receiving faint identifier however never received a reliable needle. Delayed completion of approach. Required vectoring and use of lrn to locate beacon and still indications were unreliable more than 1 or 2 mi from beacon. I have considerable experience with NDB approachs and know I was not misreading my RMI. We need a better facility for this airport. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states his corp is based at 8a0 and they use the approach frequently. On this day the WX was much better all around and he thought he could make the approach easily. Ceilings were lower than anticipated and he had not programmed his GPS for the airport. He has flown in alaska and is quite used to NDB approachs but this beacon is so weak that he was almost over it prior to getting an indication. As soon as he turned outbound on the approach he lost the NDB. He does not feel it is his equipment as it works well elsewhere. Usually one needs to do a circling approach because you are too high at the airport. What is needed is a better beacon and a better approach to be able to come straight in. Most pilots just use the GPS and published altitudes. Reporter suggest contacting the airport manager for verification.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CORP PLT INDICATES WEAK NDB AT ARPT WITH ONLY NDB APCH.
Narrative: CLRED DIRECT SARATOGA NDB, APCH 20 MI S OF 8A0. RECEIVING FAINT IDENTIFIER HOWEVER NEVER RECEIVED A RELIABLE NEEDLE. DELAYED COMPLETION OF APCH. REQUIRED VECTORING AND USE OF LRN TO LOCATE BEACON AND STILL INDICATIONS WERE UNRELIABLE MORE THAN 1 OR 2 MI FROM BEACON. I HAVE CONSIDERABLE EXPERIENCE WITH NDB APCHS AND KNOW I WAS NOT MISREADING MY RMI. WE NEED A BETTER FACILITY FOR THIS ARPT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES HIS CORP IS BASED AT 8A0 AND THEY USE THE APCH FREQUENTLY. ON THIS DAY THE WX WAS MUCH BETTER ALL AROUND AND HE THOUGHT HE COULD MAKE THE APCH EASILY. CEILINGS WERE LOWER THAN ANTICIPATED AND HE HAD NOT PROGRAMMED HIS GPS FOR THE ARPT. HE HAS FLOWN IN ALASKA AND IS QUITE USED TO NDB APCHS BUT THIS BEACON IS SO WEAK THAT HE WAS ALMOST OVER IT PRIOR TO GETTING AN INDICATION. AS SOON AS HE TURNED OUTBOUND ON THE APCH HE LOST THE NDB. HE DOES NOT FEEL IT IS HIS EQUIP AS IT WORKS WELL ELSEWHERE. USUALLY ONE NEEDS TO DO A CIRCLING APCH BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO HIGH AT THE ARPT. WHAT IS NEEDED IS A BETTER BEACON AND A BETTER APCH TO BE ABLE TO COME STRAIGHT IN. MOST PLTS JUST USE THE GPS AND PUBLISHED ALTS. RPTR SUGGEST CONTACTING THE ARPT MGR FOR VERIFICATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.