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Attributes | |
ACN | 290340 |
Time | |
Date | 199411 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tvl |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 290340 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was acting as a first officer on a scheduled part 135 flight with 19 passenger and 1 lap child. The flight crew was given a baggage count and a passenger count of 19 passenger and 1 lap. The flight departed and arrived eventually at our destination with no unusual occurrences. After the flight landed the passenger with the lap child voiced concerns about the safety of the situation. At this time I don't have any confirmation, but the possibility exists that lap child was more than 24 months old. The following day I spoke to the gate agent and reminded her of the regulation. The PIC holds the final responsibility of the flight but when given certain information such as with this lap child, he has to assume that a lap child automatically means less than 24 months. I feel better communication with ground personnel and improved training of those personnel is needed especially with respect to pertinent FARS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LAP CHILD MAY BE OVER 24 MONTHS OLD.
Narrative: I WAS ACTING AS A FO ON A SCHEDULED PART 135 FLT WITH 19 PAX AND 1 LAP CHILD. THE FLT CREW WAS GIVEN A BAGGAGE COUNT AND A PAX COUNT OF 19 PAX AND 1 LAP. THE FLT DEPARTED AND ARRIVED EVENTUALLY AT OUR DEST WITH NO UNUSUAL OCCURRENCES. AFTER THE FLT LANDED THE PAX WITH THE LAP CHILD VOICED CONCERNS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF THE SIT. AT THIS TIME I DON'T HAVE ANY CONFIRMATION, BUT THE POSSIBILITY EXISTS THAT LAP CHILD WAS MORE THAN 24 MONTHS OLD. THE FOLLOWING DAY I SPOKE TO THE GATE AGENT AND REMINDED HER OF THE REG. THE PIC HOLDS THE FINAL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE FLT BUT WHEN GIVEN CERTAIN INFO SUCH AS WITH THIS LAP CHILD, HE HAS TO ASSUME THAT A LAP CHILD AUTOMATICALLY MEANS LESS THAN 24 MONTHS. I FEEL BETTER COM WITH GND PERSONNEL AND IMPROVED TRAINING OF THOSE PERSONNEL IS NEEDED ESPECIALLY WITH RESPECT TO PERTINENT FARS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.