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Attributes | |
ACN | 291446 |
Time | |
Date | 199412 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : emi |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bwi |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 30 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 8400 flight time type : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 291446 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 13000 |
ASRS Report | 291908 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were climbing to 9000 ft on a 330 degree heading. Passing 8700 ft we noticed traffic on TCASII at 9000 ft, 10 mi out at 12 O'clock headed our direction. We also acquired him visually. I leveled the aircraft at 9000 ft expecting a higher clearance. The captain was about to ask for higher when ATC told us to expedite our climb through 9000 ft. At the same time TCASII gave a TA and then an RA (climb). As I was complying with the RA, the captain asked what higher altitude we were cleared to. ATC replied 16000 ft. The captain read it back and said we had not been given the clearance earlier. ATC's reply was that he had. There was no squeal like a blocked transmission before this. The higher altitude clearance was forgotten by ATC until it was too late. The closest we came to the other aircraft was 500 ft vertically and 1/4 mi laterally. TCASII is worth its weight in gold. Supplemental information from acn 291908: it seemed like ATC thought he'd given us a higher altitude than 9000 ft when he said expedite through it but we never heard it or read it back.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMS BREAKDOWN BTWN FLC AND ATC RESULTED IN OPERROR.
Narrative: WE WERE CLBING TO 9000 FT ON A 330 DEG HDG. PASSING 8700 FT WE NOTICED TFC ON TCASII AT 9000 FT, 10 MI OUT AT 12 O'CLOCK HEADED OUR DIRECTION. WE ALSO ACQUIRED HIM VISUALLY. I LEVELED THE ACFT AT 9000 FT EXPECTING A HIGHER CLRNC. THE CAPT WAS ABOUT TO ASK FOR HIGHER WHEN ATC TOLD US TO EXPEDITE OUR CLB THROUGH 9000 FT. AT THE SAME TIME TCASII GAVE A TA AND THEN AN RA (CLB). AS I WAS COMPLYING WITH THE RA, THE CAPT ASKED WHAT HIGHER ALT WE WERE CLRED TO. ATC REPLIED 16000 FT. THE CAPT READ IT BACK AND SAID WE HAD NOT BEEN GIVEN THE CLRNC EARLIER. ATC'S REPLY WAS THAT HE HAD. THERE WAS NO SQUEAL LIKE A BLOCKED XMISSION BEFORE THIS. THE HIGHER ALT CLRNC WAS FORGOTTEN BY ATC UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE. THE CLOSEST WE CAME TO THE OTHER ACFT WAS 500 FT VERTLY AND 1/4 MI LATERALLY. TCASII IS WORTH ITS WT IN GOLD. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 291908: IT SEEMED LIKE ATC THOUGHT HE'D GIVEN US A HIGHER ALT THAN 9000 FT WHEN HE SAID EXPEDITE THROUGH IT BUT WE NEVER HEARD IT OR READ IT BACK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.