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Attributes | |
ACN | 291824 |
Time | |
Date | 199412 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SA-227 AC Metro III |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 2700 |
ASRS Report | 291824 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Flight lax - tij. I was given passenger load of 17 adults, 2 children, and 1 infant. The bag load was 775. I elected to put 200 pounds in the nose compartment with the remainder in the tail. There was about 100 pounds of carry-on which went in the tail. Upon rotation, the aircraft pitched up very early and continued through the climb. I eventually ran out of trim and maintained aircraft control through my own inputs. The aircraft felt way out of cg but not uncontrollable. The landing was normal. After unloading the aft compartment I added the bag weights, which totaled 1110 pounds, plus a bag without a weight on it. It felt like it could have been close to 80 pounds, bringing the total close to 1200 pounds. The limitation of the tail compartme nt is 850 pounds -- 350 pounds over. I reported the situation to the director of operations who reported it to the ramp manager. I believe that the ramp personnel that loaded the aircraft didn't have the proper training or understanding of the weight limitation of this aircraft. The ramp manager has now instituted a new procedure where the bags will be counted, verified, and signed for before the aircraft is released. I, however, will visually count and check all bags myself regardless of maintaining timely departures.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER FLT'S ACFT POS PITCH BECOMES EXCESSIVE ON TKOF PROC, PIC MAINTAINS CTL BUT RUNS OUT OF STABILIZER TRIM IN PROCESS.
Narrative: FLT LAX - TIJ. I WAS GIVEN PAX LOAD OF 17 ADULTS, 2 CHILDREN, AND 1 INFANT. THE BAG LOAD WAS 775. I ELECTED TO PUT 200 LBS IN THE NOSE COMPARTMENT WITH THE REMAINDER IN THE TAIL. THERE WAS ABOUT 100 LBS OF CARRY-ON WHICH WENT IN THE TAIL. UPON ROTATION, THE ACFT PITCHED UP VERY EARLY AND CONTINUED THROUGH THE CLB. I EVENTUALLY RAN OUT OF TRIM AND MAINTAINED ACFT CTL THROUGH MY OWN INPUTS. THE ACFT FELT WAY OUT OF CG BUT NOT UNCTLABLE. THE LNDG WAS NORMAL. AFTER UNLOADING THE AFT COMPARTMENT I ADDED THE BAG WTS, WHICH TOTALED 1110 LBS, PLUS A BAG WITHOUT A WT ON IT. IT FELT LIKE IT COULD HAVE BEEN CLOSE TO 80 LBS, BRINGING THE TOTAL CLOSE TO 1200 LBS. THE LIMITATION OF THE TAIL COMPARTME NT IS 850 LBS -- 350 LBS OVER. I RPTED THE SIT TO THE DIRECTOR OF OPS WHO RPTED IT TO THE RAMP MGR. I BELIEVE THAT THE RAMP PERSONNEL THAT LOADED THE ACFT DIDN'T HAVE THE PROPER TRAINING OR UNDERSTANDING OF THE WT LIMITATION OF THIS ACFT. THE RAMP MGR HAS NOW INSTITUTED A NEW PROC WHERE THE BAGS WILL BE COUNTED, VERIFIED, AND SIGNED FOR BEFORE THE ACFT IS RELEASED. I, HOWEVER, WILL VISUALLY COUNT AND CHK ALL BAGS MYSELF REGARDLESS OF MAINTAINING TIMELY DEPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.