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Attributes | |
ACN | 293720 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : slc |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7700 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : slc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 293720 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approach control had cleared us for the ILS DME runway 16 approach, maintain 8000 ft to kayze. WX VFR conditions and the air crew had the field in sight. Crossing dwayn, the captain, flying the aircraft, thought he was over kayze and initiated a visual approach to runway 16. Passing 7700 ft approach control advised us we were to maintain 8000 ft to kayze. Unfortunately, because of budget cuts, so's are not issued approach plates. To attempt to read the approach plate over the first officer's shoulder is sometimes impossible. This leaves the so out of the loop. I think the airlines should issue approach plates and high altitude en route charts to so's. Maybe at the pilot's base they could have a minimal library or file so the so's could check out approach plates for their flight. This instead of issuing a full set of plates to the so's. The current system makes the so feel more like a passenger than a pilot.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PIC MISINTERPRETED NAV INFO CAUSING PREMATURE DSCNT AND PLTDEV.
Narrative: APCH CTL HAD CLRED US FOR THE ILS DME RWY 16 APCH, MAINTAIN 8000 FT TO KAYZE. WX VFR CONDITIONS AND THE AIR CREW HAD THE FIELD IN SIGHT. XING DWAYN, THE CAPT, FLYING THE ACFT, THOUGHT HE WAS OVER KAYZE AND INITIATED A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 16. PASSING 7700 FT APCH CTL ADVISED US WE WERE TO MAINTAIN 8000 FT TO KAYZE. UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE OF BUDGET CUTS, SO'S ARE NOT ISSUED APCH PLATES. TO ATTEMPT TO READ THE APCH PLATE OVER THE FO'S SHOULDER IS SOMETIMES IMPOSSIBLE. THIS LEAVES THE SO OUT OF THE LOOP. I THINK THE AIRLINES SHOULD ISSUE APCH PLATES AND HIGH ALT ENRTE CHARTS TO SO'S. MAYBE AT THE PLT'S BASE THEY COULD HAVE A MINIMAL LIBRARY OR FILE SO THE SO'S COULD CHK OUT APCH PLATES FOR THEIR FLT. THIS INSTEAD OF ISSUING A FULL SET OF PLATES TO THE SO'S. THE CURRENT SYS MAKES THE SO FEEL MORE LIKE A PAX THAN A PLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.