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Attributes | |
ACN | 293974 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2850 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8200 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 293974 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Level at 3000 ft on the localizer with runway in sight. The controller cleared us for the visual runway 31R, maintain 3000 ft until the marker, but the first officer started to follow the GS of the ILS. I realized what he was doing and intervened before we went too far under the assigned altitude (150 ft below). This could have been avoided if the controller had not given an unusual clearance. 3000 ft is the assigned GS interception altitude for this particular approach. We ended up above the GS with unstabilized approach criteria.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: STABILIZED APCH CONCEPT COMPROMISED IN VISUAL APCH CLRNC.
Narrative: LEVEL AT 3000 FT ON THE LOC WITH RWY IN SIGHT. THE CTLR CLRED US FOR THE VISUAL RWY 31R, MAINTAIN 3000 FT UNTIL THE MARKER, BUT THE FO STARTED TO FOLLOW THE GS OF THE ILS. I REALIZED WHAT HE WAS DOING AND INTERVENED BEFORE WE WENT TOO FAR UNDER THE ASSIGNED ALT (150 FT BELOW). THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE CTLR HAD NOT GIVEN AN UNUSUAL CLRNC. 3000 FT IS THE ASSIGNED GS INTERCEPTION ALT FOR THIS PARTICULAR APCH. WE ENDED UP ABOVE THE GS WITH UNSTABILIZED APCH CRITERIA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.