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Attributes | |
ACN | 294880 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl tower : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 17500 flight time type : 3800 |
ASRS Report | 294880 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Top of overcast 4200 ft, bottom 3000 ft. Moderate rime ice reported existing. Atl approach control assigned 3500 ft to intercept ILS runway 27L with final 20-25 mi out when altitude change to 4500 ft suggested (in clear). Tower controllers said nothing could be done to get aircraft out of icing due to turboprops in this pattern. This attitude is what causes accidents. I called a mr FAA (phone) who said he would look into it. We spent about 10 mins in icing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR ALLEGES THE ATC ARR PROCS TOO INFLEXIBLE.
Narrative: TOP OF OVCST 4200 FT, BOTTOM 3000 FT. MODERATE RIME ICE RPTED EXISTING. ATL APCH CTL ASSIGNED 3500 FT TO INTERCEPT ILS RWY 27L WITH FINAL 20-25 MI OUT WHEN ALT CHANGE TO 4500 FT SUGGESTED (IN CLR). TWR CTLRS SAID NOTHING COULD BE DONE TO GET ACFT OUT OF ICING DUE TO TURBOPROPS IN THIS PATTERN. THIS ATTITUDE IS WHAT CAUSES ACCIDENTS. I CALLED A MR FAA (PHONE) WHO SAID HE WOULD LOOK INTO IT. WE SPENT ABOUT 10 MINS IN ICING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.