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Attributes | |
ACN | 295064 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pvd |
State Reference | RI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pvd tracon : bru |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 460 flight time type : 35 |
ASRS Report | 295064 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was en route from plymouth, ma, to westerly, ri, with a student on a cross country flight, level at 4500 ft MSL, with all equipment working on takeoff. About 20 NM east of providence, ri, I called pvd approach to obtain flight following. The controller gave me a transponder code and told me to identify. I squawked the code and pushed the indent button. Then I went back to giving instruction to my student. Around 5-6 mins later, it dawned on me that I did not hear the controller verify that I was radar contact. So I called approach control again and asked to verify that I was in radar contact. By now, I was over pvd class C airspace level 4500 ft MSL and about 7 NM southeast of pvd airport. The controller came back and told me that there was no secondary or primary return on the radar scope and to remain clear of pvd class C airspace. Now, I was about 2 NM south of quonset state airport and I elected to continue on course, figuring it was about the same distance to continue straight ahead than turning left to get beyond the 10 mi ring of the class C airspace, being that I now did not have an operable mode C transponder. Continuing en route, about 6 NM southwest of quonset airport, traffic was spotted at 12 O'clock at the same altitude as my aircraft. I was forced to take corrective action by banking to the right and descending 300 ft when a dc-9 flew directly overhead. The dc-9 was at 4500 ft MSL (which was my VFR altitude flying wbound) and he was travelling eastbound. I don't know if the dc-9 pilot ever saw me, because he did not seem to take any corrective action. I would recommend that when an aircraft loses its mode C transponder and especially when they lose it over class C or B airspace, that the controller does not just hastily kick aircraft out of the airspace, but make an attempt to keep up position reporting to reduce the possibilities of close calls like this one. Furthermore, unless the dc- 9 was descending, he should not have been flying on a wbound VFR altitude when flying eastbound. As shown here, it just increases the possibility (although remote) of a midair collision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA HAS NMAC WITH DC9.
Narrative: I WAS ENRTE FROM PLYMOUTH, MA, TO WESTERLY, RI, WITH A STUDENT ON A XCOUNTRY FLT, LEVEL AT 4500 FT MSL, WITH ALL EQUIP WORKING ON TKOF. ABOUT 20 NM E OF PROVIDENCE, RI, I CALLED PVD APCH TO OBTAIN FLT FOLLOWING. THE CTLR GAVE ME A XPONDER CODE AND TOLD ME TO IDENT. I SQUAWKED THE CODE AND PUSHED THE INDENT BUTTON. THEN I WENT BACK TO GIVING INSTRUCTION TO MY STUDENT. AROUND 5-6 MINS LATER, IT DAWNED ON ME THAT I DID NOT HEAR THE CTLR VERIFY THAT I WAS RADAR CONTACT. SO I CALLED APCH CTL AGAIN AND ASKED TO VERIFY THAT I WAS IN RADAR CONTACT. BY NOW, I WAS OVER PVD CLASS C AIRSPACE LEVEL 4500 FT MSL AND ABOUT 7 NM SE OF PVD ARPT. THE CTLR CAME BACK AND TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS NO SECONDARY OR PRIMARY RETURN ON THE RADAR SCOPE AND TO REMAIN CLR OF PVD CLASS C AIRSPACE. NOW, I WAS ABOUT 2 NM S OF QUONSET STATE ARPT AND I ELECTED TO CONTINUE ON COURSE, FIGURING IT WAS ABOUT THE SAME DISTANCE TO CONTINUE STRAIGHT AHEAD THAN TURNING L TO GET BEYOND THE 10 MI RING OF THE CLASS C AIRSPACE, BEING THAT I NOW DID NOT HAVE AN OPERABLE MODE C XPONDER. CONTINUING ENRTE, ABOUT 6 NM SW OF QUONSET ARPT, TFC WAS SPOTTED AT 12 O'CLOCK AT THE SAME ALT AS MY ACFT. I WAS FORCED TO TAKE CORRECTIVE ACTION BY BANKING TO THE R AND DSNDING 300 FT WHEN A DC-9 FLEW DIRECTLY OVERHEAD. THE DC-9 WAS AT 4500 FT MSL (WHICH WAS MY VFR ALT FLYING WBOUND) AND HE WAS TRAVELLING EBOUND. I DON'T KNOW IF THE DC-9 PLT EVER SAW ME, BECAUSE HE DID NOT SEEM TO TAKE ANY CORRECTIVE ACTION. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WHEN AN ACFT LOSES ITS MODE C XPONDER AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY LOSE IT OVER CLASS C OR B AIRSPACE, THAT THE CTLR DOES NOT JUST HASTILY KICK ACFT OUT OF THE AIRSPACE, BUT MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO KEEP UP POS RPTING TO REDUCE THE POSSIBILITIES OF CLOSE CALLS LIKE THIS ONE. FURTHERMORE, UNLESS THE DC- 9 WAS DSNDING, HE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN FLYING ON A WBOUND VFR ALT WHEN FLYING EBOUND. AS SHOWN HERE, IT JUST INCREASES THE POSSIBILITY (ALTHOUGH REMOTE) OF A MIDAIR COLLISION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.