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Attributes | |
ACN | 295465 |
Time | |
Date | 199502 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cng |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 16000 msl bound upper : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : zme |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 2100 flight time type : 360 |
ASRS Report | 295465 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While flying on a flight planned route from sdf to mem, a ZME controller cleared us direct middy intersection. Per our company operations manual, if the crew has not been over the route filed in the last 90 days -- they must fly the full flight plan route. I advised the controller that we could not take a shortcut/deviation in our route. The controller was confused and asked why not. I explained that we had to stay on the filed route. His next transmission was okay, fly cng, dyl, middy, middy 1 (the filed route). This seemed normal. After a few min our next received transmission was from his supervisor -- asking what the problem/confusion was -- and why we hadn't followed the controller's instructions. We had had no indication from the previous controller of a conflict or problem, so now we were confused. At this point the PF/captain asked the controller what he needed us to do. He told us to go direct middy for aircraft sequencing. We agreed to the deviation, and reported that the first controller did not indicate he needed the deviation for sequencing, WX, conflict, etc. That was the last transmission per that event. If the initial controller had a problem with us not deviating, he should let the crew know why and what - - not agree and then call his supervisor to the channel. This created more confusion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X REFUSED CLRNC DUE TO COMPANY OPERATING MANUAL.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING ON A FLT PLANNED RTE FROM SDF TO MEM, A ZME CTLR CLRED US DIRECT MIDDY INTXN. PER OUR COMPANY OPS MANUAL, IF THE CREW HAS NOT BEEN OVER THE RTE FILED IN THE LAST 90 DAYS -- THEY MUST FLY THE FULL FLT PLAN RTE. I ADVISED THE CTLR THAT WE COULD NOT TAKE A SHORTCUT/DEV IN OUR RTE. THE CTLR WAS CONFUSED AND ASKED WHY NOT. I EXPLAINED THAT WE HAD TO STAY ON THE FILED RTE. HIS NEXT XMISSION WAS OKAY, FLY CNG, DYL, MIDDY, MIDDY 1 (THE FILED RTE). THIS SEEMED NORMAL. AFTER A FEW MIN OUR NEXT RECEIVED XMISSION WAS FROM HIS SUPVR -- ASKING WHAT THE PROB/CONFUSION WAS -- AND WHY WE HADN'T FOLLOWED THE CTLR'S INSTRUCTIONS. WE HAD HAD NO INDICATION FROM THE PREVIOUS CTLR OF A CONFLICT OR PROB, SO NOW WE WERE CONFUSED. AT THIS POINT THE PF/CAPT ASKED THE CTLR WHAT HE NEEDED US TO DO. HE TOLD US TO GO DIRECT MIDDY FOR ACFT SEQUENCING. WE AGREED TO THE DEV, AND RPTED THAT THE FIRST CTLR DID NOT INDICATE HE NEEDED THE DEV FOR SEQUENCING, WX, CONFLICT, ETC. THAT WAS THE LAST XMISSION PER THAT EVENT. IF THE INITIAL CTLR HAD A PROB WITH US NOT DEVIATING, HE SHOULD LET THE CREW KNOW WHY AND WHAT - - NOT AGREE AND THEN CALL HIS SUPVR TO THE CHANNEL. THIS CREATED MORE CONFUSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.