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Attributes | |
ACN | 295856 |
Time | |
Date | 199501 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : eed |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 24000 msl bound upper : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla tower : mem |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 3600 flight time type : 450 |
ASRS Report | 295856 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
In cruise at FL280 we were issued a clearance to descend to FL240 prior to 10 NM east of needles (eed) VOR. At that time we were about 60 NM west of eed. FL240 is not a usual altitude at that location (eed 077010) and is not an altitude to be expected on the arrival (karlo arrival to phx). We (I was flying at the time) forgot to descend! ZLA asked our altitude at 12 NM east of eed. They said it was not a problem and to descend at that time to FL240. This was the 4TH flight of the day and the last flight of a 4 day trip. We were discussing on time versus late arrival in phx rather than concentrating on the initial descent.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR ERROR ADMITTED IN FORGETTING TO START DSCNT PROC FOR AN ALT XING RESTR.
Narrative: IN CRUISE AT FL280 WE WERE ISSUED A CLRNC TO DSND TO FL240 PRIOR TO 10 NM E OF NEEDLES (EED) VOR. AT THAT TIME WE WERE ABOUT 60 NM W OF EED. FL240 IS NOT A USUAL ALT AT THAT LOCATION (EED 077010) AND IS NOT AN ALT TO BE EXPECTED ON THE ARR (KARLO ARR TO PHX). WE (I WAS FLYING AT THE TIME) FORGOT TO DSND! ZLA ASKED OUR ALT AT 12 NM E OF EED. THEY SAID IT WAS NOT A PROB AND TO DSND AT THAT TIME TO FL240. THIS WAS THE 4TH FLT OF THE DAY AND THE LAST FLT OF A 4 DAY TRIP. WE WERE DISCUSSING ON TIME VERSUS LATE ARR IN PHX RATHER THAN CONCENTRATING ON THE INITIAL DSCNT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.