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Attributes | |
ACN | 296151 |
Time | |
Date | 199502 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : w77 |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2400 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : fay |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 3460 |
ASRS Report | 296151 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
At the end of long cross country to complete long cross country requirement for the student's IFR rating, we received clearance for NDB approach to sanford. I understood approach controller to say maintain 3000 ft, cleared for NDB approach. Report procedure turn inbound. Student executed parallel entry to racetrack pattern procedure turn and I prompted him to descend to initial approach altitude after intercepting outbound leg. Controller contacted us and said that we were to maintain 3000 ft until procedure turn inbound. We were at 2400 ft at that point. I acknowledged and contacted approach. I may have misunderstood clearance but if clearance was what controller said, it would have been difficult to get down to MDA by missed approach point from 3000 ft altitude loss of 257 ft in 3.8 mi.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DSCNT BELOW ASSIGNED APCH ALT.
Narrative: AT THE END OF LONG XCOUNTRY TO COMPLETE LONG XCOUNTRY REQUIREMENT FOR THE STUDENT'S IFR RATING, WE RECEIVED CLRNC FOR NDB APCH TO SANFORD. I UNDERSTOOD APCH CTLR TO SAY MAINTAIN 3000 FT, CLRED FOR NDB APCH. RPT PROC TURN INBOUND. STUDENT EXECUTED PARALLEL ENTRY TO RACETRACK PATTERN PROC TURN AND I PROMPTED HIM TO DSND TO INITIAL APCH ALT AFTER INTERCEPTING OUTBOUND LEG. CTLR CONTACTED US AND SAID THAT WE WERE TO MAINTAIN 3000 FT UNTIL PROC TURN INBOUND. WE WERE AT 2400 FT AT THAT POINT. I ACKNOWLEDGED AND CONTACTED APCH. I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD CLRNC BUT IF CLRNC WAS WHAT CTLR SAID, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT TO GET DOWN TO MDA BY MISSED APCH POINT FROM 3000 FT ALT LOSS OF 257 FT IN 3.8 MI.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.