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Attributes | |
ACN | 297735 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mem |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mem |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 297735 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was informed approximately 24 hours after the alleged incident by flight management that the FAA had requested my certificate number. The request was due to unknown reasons. After questioning several mgrs, I finally found 1 who know why the FAA had made this request. I was told that I was being vectored for a visual approach to runway 9 at mem and cleared to 4000 ft MSL and that it later was changed to runway 36R and maintain 7000 ft. The controller said that we only 'rogered' his instructions. The ways that I remembered the flight from 10000 ft till touchdown is as follows: I had been told by ATC to expect runway 9 and given a heading and descent to 4000 ft. Sometime after that, I was told that the runway had been changed to runway 36R and given another heading change. Also I was advised of a air carrier Y dc-9 climbing out at my 9 O'clock position. I told the copilot to report 'the traffic in sight' and I thought nothing of it. I was never told that I was off altitude, descending below assigned altitude or anything. It is a possibility that the controller never received our acknowledgment of his instructions. I have been told that the tapes do not contain a readback from my aircraft acknowledging the amended altitude of 7000 ft. (I don't think it was ever given.) supplemental information from acn 298000: we were cleared by mem approach control to head 150 degrees from gilmore VOR and descend to 4000 ft for a visual approach to runway 9. We complied upon reaching 4000 ft. We were advised of dc-9 traffic at 9 O'clock and I think 4 mi. Our first officer pointed out the traffic which appeared to be at a safe distance and in the clear. We continued our approach and landed on runway 36R. I did not hear any change in our altitude assignment. I was the so on this flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X NON ADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC DSCNT TO WRONG ALT. ALTDEV.
Narrative: I WAS INFORMED APPROX 24 HRS AFTER THE ALLEGED INCIDENT BY FLT MGMNT THAT THE FAA HAD REQUESTED MY CERTIFICATE NUMBER. THE REQUEST WAS DUE TO UNKNOWN REASONS. AFTER QUESTIONING SEVERAL MGRS, I FINALLY FOUND 1 WHO KNOW WHY THE FAA HAD MADE THIS REQUEST. I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS BEING VECTORED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 9 AT MEM AND CLRED TO 4000 FT MSL AND THAT IT LATER WAS CHANGED TO RWY 36R AND MAINTAIN 7000 FT. THE CTLR SAID THAT WE ONLY 'ROGERED' HIS INSTRUCTIONS. THE WAYS THAT I REMEMBERED THE FLT FROM 10000 FT TILL TOUCHDOWN IS AS FOLLOWS: I HAD BEEN TOLD BY ATC TO EXPECT RWY 9 AND GIVEN A HDG AND DSCNT TO 4000 FT. SOMETIME AFTER THAT, I WAS TOLD THAT THE RWY HAD BEEN CHANGED TO RWY 36R AND GIVEN ANOTHER HDG CHANGE. ALSO I WAS ADVISED OF A ACR Y DC-9 CLBING OUT AT MY 9 O'CLOCK POS. I TOLD THE COPLT TO RPT 'THE TFC IN SIGHT' AND I THOUGHT NOTHING OF IT. I WAS NEVER TOLD THAT I WAS OFF ALT, DSNDING BELOW ASSIGNED ALT OR ANYTHING. IT IS A POSSIBILITY THAT THE CTLR NEVER RECEIVED OUR ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF HIS INSTRUCTIONS. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE TAPES DO NOT CONTAIN A READBACK FROM MY ACFT ACKNOWLEDGING THE AMENDED ALT OF 7000 FT. (I DON'T THINK IT WAS EVER GIVEN.) SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 298000: WE WERE CLRED BY MEM APCH CTL TO HEAD 150 DEGS FROM GILMORE VOR AND DSND TO 4000 FT FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 9. WE COMPLIED UPON REACHING 4000 FT. WE WERE ADVISED OF DC-9 TFC AT 9 O'CLOCK AND I THINK 4 MI. OUR FO POINTED OUT THE TFC WHICH APPEARED TO BE AT A SAFE DISTANCE AND IN THE CLR. WE CONTINUED OUR APCH AND LANDED ON RWY 36R. I DID NOT HEAR ANY CHANGE IN OUR ALT ASSIGNMENT. I WAS THE SO ON THIS FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.