37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 298028 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pdx |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-83 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 2200 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We had landed at pdx after a short flight from sea. About 20 mins before departure it started raining quite hard. With the rain were ice pellets and sheet. This all stopped shortly before pushback. The wings were examined by my first officer and an company mechanic trained in our anti-deice procedures. The outside air temperature was in the mid-40's. The rain and ice pellets (slush) were not adhering to the wings. There was no frost, ice, or snow adhering to any surface of our aircraft. The consensus was that we did not require deicing. As we pushed back, a passenger told a flight attendant that he saw some slush on our wing. We immediately stopped and had the aircraft deiced from top to bottom, front to back, and then departed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PAX SEES ICE ACCUMULATION ON TOP OF WING AND RPTS IT TO CABIN CREW. ACFT TOWED BACK INTO GATE FOR DEICING.
Narrative: WE HAD LANDED AT PDX AFTER A SHORT FLT FROM SEA. ABOUT 20 MINS BEFORE DEP IT STARTED RAINING QUITE HARD. WITH THE RAIN WERE ICE PELLETS AND SHEET. THIS ALL STOPPED SHORTLY BEFORE PUSHBACK. THE WINGS WERE EXAMINED BY MY FO AND AN COMPANY MECH TRAINED IN OUR ANTI-DEICE PROCS. THE OUTSIDE AIR TEMP WAS IN THE MID-40'S. THE RAIN AND ICE PELLETS (SLUSH) WERE NOT ADHERING TO THE WINGS. THERE WAS NO FROST, ICE, OR SNOW ADHERING TO ANY SURFACE OF OUR ACFT. THE CONSENSUS WAS THAT WE DID NOT REQUIRE DEICING. AS WE PUSHED BACK, A PAX TOLD A FLT ATTENDANT THAT HE SAW SOME SLUSH ON OUR WING. WE IMMEDIATELY STOPPED AND HAD THE ACFT DEICED FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, FRONT TO BACK, AND THEN DEPARTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.