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Attributes | |
ACN | 298894 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : swf |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1040 msl bound upper : 1900 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : swf |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : visual approach : circling |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 5 |
ASRS Report | 298894 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was the safety pilot on a practice IFR approach in VFR conditions. We were cleared ILS runway 9, circle-to-land runway 16 by approach. We were transferred to tower and told men and equipment were on runway 9 and we were cleared ILS runway 9 circle- to-land runway 16. The controller told me later on the phone that he told me to report OM inbound. I missed on the ILS at 1040 ft and never went below circling minimums. There was no one on the approach end of runway 9, the departure end had a few people on it 2 mi away. We were at least 1500 ft AGL by the time we got to them. I was asked to call the tower and they did not like the fact that I had flown down the runway (at altitude, minimum circling altitude or higher). I told him we should have talked about how I was going to circle, he expected me to circle differently. In the future, I will tell the tower exactly how I will circle. If he doesn't like it, he can advise me on how to circle. I planned to fly down runway 9 and make a left downwind so the PF could see the runway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TRAINING IN PROGRESS. CIRCLING APCH CLRNC INTERP PROB.
Narrative: I WAS THE SAFETY PLT ON A PRACTICE IFR APCH IN VFR CONDITIONS. WE WERE CLRED ILS RWY 9, CIRCLE-TO-LAND RWY 16 BY APCH. WE WERE TRANSFERRED TO TWR AND TOLD MEN AND EQUIP WERE ON RWY 9 AND WE WERE CLRED ILS RWY 9 CIRCLE- TO-LAND RWY 16. THE CTLR TOLD ME LATER ON THE PHONE THAT HE TOLD ME TO RPT OM INBOUND. I MISSED ON THE ILS AT 1040 FT AND NEVER WENT BELOW CIRCLING MINIMUMS. THERE WAS NO ONE ON THE APCH END OF RWY 9, THE DEP END HAD A FEW PEOPLE ON IT 2 MI AWAY. WE WERE AT LEAST 1500 FT AGL BY THE TIME WE GOT TO THEM. I WAS ASKED TO CALL THE TWR AND THEY DID NOT LIKE THE FACT THAT I HAD FLOWN DOWN THE RWY (AT ALT, MINIMUM CIRCLING ALT OR HIGHER). I TOLD HIM WE SHOULD HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW I WAS GOING TO CIRCLE, HE EXPECTED ME TO CIRCLE DIFFERENTLY. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL TELL THE TWR EXACTLY HOW I WILL CIRCLE. IF HE DOESN'T LIKE IT, HE CAN ADVISE ME ON HOW TO CIRCLE. I PLANNED TO FLY DOWN RWY 9 AND MAKE A L DOWNWIND SO THE PF COULD SEE THE RWY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.