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Attributes | |
ACN | 300234 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 42 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 70 |
ASRS Report | 300234 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 299804 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Upon gear retraction we had a master caution 'air.' I looked up at the air panel and saw a bleed leak for the #2 engine. Due to the fact that the #1 bleed was deferred we could not pressurize. While discussing whether to continue or return to dfw we exceeded our initial altitude of 2000 ft. The altitude deviation was caused by a minor distraction during the initial climb segment. While this altitude deviation was caused by crew error, I firmly believe it could have been avoided if ATC at dfw did not give all propeller driven aircraft an initial altitude of 2000 ft. In light of the fact that the ATR-72 climbs out at better than 3000 FPM initially, it seems that an initial altitude of 5000 ft would be more appropriate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT OVERSHOT - FLC WAS DISTR BY AN EQUIP PROB DURING INITIAL CLB AND THEY EXCEEDED THEIR ALT ASSIGNMENT.
Narrative: UPON GEAR RETRACTION WE HAD A MASTER CAUTION 'AIR.' I LOOKED UP AT THE AIR PANEL AND SAW A BLEED LEAK FOR THE #2 ENG. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE #1 BLEED WAS DEFERRED WE COULD NOT PRESSURIZE. WHILE DISCUSSING WHETHER TO CONTINUE OR RETURN TO DFW WE EXCEEDED OUR INITIAL ALT OF 2000 FT. THE ALTDEV WAS CAUSED BY A MINOR DISTR DURING THE INITIAL CLB SEGMENT. WHILE THIS ALTDEV WAS CAUSED BY CREW ERROR, I FIRMLY BELIEVE IT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF ATC AT DFW DID NOT GIVE ALL PROP DRIVEN ACFT AN INITIAL ALT OF 2000 FT. IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT THE ATR-72 CLBS OUT AT BETTER THAN 3000 FPM INITIALLY, IT SEEMS THAT AN INITIAL ALT OF 5000 FT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.