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Attributes | |
ACN | 300430 |
Time | |
Date | 199503 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 204 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 204 |
ASRS Report | 300430 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After pushing back from gate I called ohare ground metering to inform them that we were at xx with information 'delta.' we were told to monitor ground. Ground control told us 'runway 32L T10 right on bravo microphone 2 microphone tango' that is what I copied and read back. We proceeded to taxi on 1 engine. The 3 of us, captain, first officer and engineer discussed the route to runway 32L T10 as that of arriving at T10 from the southeast on tango as opposed to arriving at T10 from the northeast (via A6,J,J1,T) as we had on our 2 previous trips to ohare earlier in the month. At about the time we arrived at the intersection of microphone and tango we could see that there was only 1 or 2 aircraft in the area. So we decided to start the remaining 2 engines. About that time ground control gave us make a right, a left, a left, and a left. I am not sure of these instructions as I was starting the engines and could not write them down. I repeated the instructions in a questioning manner in a routing other than his, because in my mind it was different, and I was heading for T10. I am not sure what happened next but it was then that I double checked outside and saw that we were now crossing runway 32L on microphone southeast of T10 and questioned ground and he asked us if we wanted to go from microphone or make 2 right turns. Ground did not seem upset that we were crossing the runway. I think we (the crew) were all surprised to find ourselves crossing a runway (although it was not the active portion of the runway). In reviewing the events I am not sure if we followed or failed to follow the controllers instructions and I was surprised to see myself looking out the right windshield at an aircraft about to takeoff (although away from me) from T10 on runway 32L. Factors were: unfamiliarity with ohare, rapid fire instructions, my own preconceived routing resulting in confusion and doubt, also the divided duties in the cockpit of taxiing, communicating and starting engines.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT CONFUSED ON TAXI CROSSES ACTIVE RWY.
Narrative: AFTER PUSHING BACK FROM GATE I CALLED OHARE GND METERING TO INFORM THEM THAT WE WERE AT XX WITH INFO 'DELTA.' WE WERE TOLD TO MONITOR GND. GND CTL TOLD US 'RWY 32L T10 R ON BRAVO MIKE 2 MIKE TANGO' THAT IS WHAT I COPIED AND READ BACK. WE PROCEEDED TO TAXI ON 1 ENG. THE 3 OF US, CAPT, FO AND ENGINEER DISCUSSED THE RTE TO RWY 32L T10 AS THAT OF ARRIVING AT T10 FROM THE SE ON TANGO AS OPPOSED TO ARRIVING AT T10 FROM THE NE (VIA A6,J,J1,T) AS WE HAD ON OUR 2 PREVIOUS TRIPS TO OHARE EARLIER IN THE MONTH. AT ABOUT THE TIME WE ARRIVED AT THE INTXN OF MIKE AND TANGO WE COULD SEE THAT THERE WAS ONLY 1 OR 2 ACFT IN THE AREA. SO WE DECIDED TO START THE REMAINING 2 ENGS. ABOUT THAT TIME GND CTL GAVE US MAKE A R, A L, A L, AND A L. I AM NOT SURE OF THESE INSTRUCTIONS AS I WAS STARTING THE ENGS AND COULD NOT WRITE THEM DOWN. I REPEATED THE INSTRUCTIONS IN A QUESTIONING MANNER IN A ROUTING OTHER THAN HIS, BECAUSE IN MY MIND IT WAS DIFFERENT, AND I WAS HDG FOR T10. I AM NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED NEXT BUT IT WAS THEN THAT I DOUBLE CHKED OUTSIDE AND SAW THAT WE WERE NOW XING RWY 32L ON MIKE SE OF T10 AND QUESTIONED GND AND HE ASKED US IF WE WANTED TO GO FROM MIKE OR MAKE 2 R TURNS. GND DID NOT SEEM UPSET THAT WE WERE XING THE RWY. I THINK WE (THE CREW) WERE ALL SURPRISED TO FIND OURSELVES XING A RWY (ALTHOUGH IT WAS NOT THE ACTIVE PORTION OF THE RWY). IN REVIEWING THE EVENTS I AM NOT SURE IF WE FOLLOWED OR FAILED TO FOLLOW THE CTLRS INSTRUCTIONS AND I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE MYSELF LOOKING OUT THE R WINDSHIELD AT AN ACFT ABOUT TO TKOF (ALTHOUGH AWAY FROM ME) FROM T10 ON RWY 32L. FACTORS WERE: UNFAMILIARITY WITH OHARE, RAPID FIRE INSTRUCTIONS, MY OWN PRECONCEIVED ROUTING RESULTING IN CONFUSION AND DOUBT, ALSO THE DIVIDED DUTIES IN THE COCKPIT OF TAXIING, COMMUNICATING AND STARTING ENGS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.