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Attributes | |
ACN | 300940 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : oak |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zoa |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 1550 flight time type : 25 |
ASRS Report | 300940 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Contacted bay approach (135.4) in flight, requested IFR to apc. Told 'standby for squawk.' then 'nxxx, radar contact, (position), fly heading 340 degrees to intercept sgd 127 degrees radial, cleared direct sgd direct, maintain 4000 ft. The flight proceeded uneventfully IFR in VMC at 4000 ft. Handed off to another bay sector (127.0) then to travis approach 119.0 then ZOA. Nearing sgd, it was obvious apc was VFR so called ZOA to request visual approach. After some delay, controller responded 'cleared for VOR runway 6 approach.' I responded 'canceling IFR, request frequency change to napa tower' ZOA then displayed some confusion of status of flight visibility-a-visibility IFR verses VFR advisories. Told to contact ZOA supervisor after landing and discussed with him. He confirmed that ZOA thought flight originated oakland airport (not true - pao was departure airport) and that flight was not IFR. Concerned with class B clearance. He admitted that both travis approach and ZOA thought flight was VFR not IFR. Pilot assumed IFR clearance since complete clearance issued as above.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLRNC CONFUSION REGARDING VFR OR IFR STATUS.
Narrative: CONTACTED BAY APCH (135.4) IN FLT, REQUESTED IFR TO APC. TOLD 'STANDBY FOR SQUAWK.' THEN 'NXXX, RADAR CONTACT, (POS), FLY HDG 340 DEGS TO INTERCEPT SGD 127 DEGS RADIAL, CLRED DIRECT SGD DIRECT, MAINTAIN 4000 FT. THE FLT PROCEEDED UNEVENTFULLY IFR IN VMC AT 4000 FT. HANDED OFF TO ANOTHER BAY SECTOR (127.0) THEN TO TRAVIS APCH 119.0 THEN ZOA. NEARING SGD, IT WAS OBVIOUS APC WAS VFR SO CALLED ZOA TO REQUEST VISUAL APCH. AFTER SOME DELAY, CTLR RESPONDED 'CLRED FOR VOR RWY 6 APCH.' I RESPONDED 'CANCELING IFR, REQUEST FREQ CHANGE TO NAPA TWR' ZOA THEN DISPLAYED SOME CONFUSION OF STATUS OF FLT VIS-A-VIS IFR VERSES VFR ADVISORIES. TOLD TO CONTACT ZOA SUPVR AFTER LNDG AND DISCUSSED WITH HIM. HE CONFIRMED THAT ZOA THOUGHT FLT ORIGINATED OAKLAND ARPT (NOT TRUE - PAO WAS DEP ARPT) AND THAT FLT WAS NOT IFR. CONCERNED WITH CLASS B CLRNC. HE ADMITTED THAT BOTH TRAVIS APCH AND ZOA THOUGHT FLT WAS VFR NOT IFR. PLT ASSUMED IFR CLRNC SINCE COMPLETE CLRNC ISSUED AS ABOVE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.