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Attributes | |
ACN | 301575 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mco |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 301575 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
While on a downwind leg for runway 17 at mco at 5000 ft, approach advised us to turn left to 270 degrees and descend to 3000 ft. Several seconds later we were cleared for a visual approach. As we were descending and turning through a scattered layer with light rain we saw that we were already through final. ATC handed us over to tower frequency 118.45 who advised us we were through final. I told him it was due to a late clearance. He said ok! A 727 flight received a TCASII resolution. I called approach by phone on the ground and spoke to a controller who said it was no real problem but that the strong wind out of the east, as well as the late clearance added to the problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER FLIES THROUGH FINAL AND CREATES TCASII ALERT FOR A 727.
Narrative: WHILE ON A DOWNWIND LEG FOR RWY 17 AT MCO AT 5000 FT, APCH ADVISED US TO TURN L TO 270 DEGS AND DSND TO 3000 FT. SEVERAL SECONDS LATER WE WERE CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH. AS WE WERE DSNDING AND TURNING THROUGH A SCATTERED LAYER WITH LIGHT RAIN WE SAW THAT WE WERE ALREADY THROUGH FINAL. ATC HANDED US OVER TO TWR FREQ 118.45 WHO ADVISED US WE WERE THROUGH FINAL. I TOLD HIM IT WAS DUE TO A LATE CLRNC. HE SAID OK! A 727 FLT RECEIVED A TCASII RESOLUTION. I CALLED APCH BY PHONE ON THE GND AND SPOKE TO A CTLR WHO SAID IT WAS NO REAL PROB BUT THAT THE STRONG WIND OUT OF THE E, AS WELL AS THE LATE CLRNC ADDED TO THE PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.