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Far -- flight crew realizes after takeoff that they should have had an alternate airport listed for their destination and the fuel for same.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 301603 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199504 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : gso |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 301603 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1700 |
| ASRS Report | 301597 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The new release format was in effect less than a week. Dispatch release indicated no alternate required, so fuel load was based on that. After departure a review of current and forecast WX indicated an alternate was, in fact, required -- therefore, the additional fuel required for an alternate (plus 45 min) was not added. Flight landed at destination without incident. Once there, I called my dispatcher and his response was -- 'oh, I must have missed that -- no big deal.' the flight into greensboro was late, so we were all in a hurry to turn the flight quickly back to dca and try to make up some time. The unfamiliarity of the release format along with the pressure to get back on schedule certainly contributed. The cavalier attitude of my dispatcher in sby did little to inspire any confidence that this might be corrected anytime soon. Supplemental information from acn 301597: we added some additional fuel over planned which did provide us just enough fuel to cover the fuel to a legal alternate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FAR -- FLC REALIZES AFTER TKOF THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD AN ALTERNATE ARPT LISTED FOR THEIR DEST AND THE FUEL FOR SAME.
Narrative: THE NEW RELEASE FORMAT WAS IN EFFECT LESS THAN A WK. DISPATCH RELEASE INDICATED NO ALTERNATE REQUIRED, SO FUEL LOAD WAS BASED ON THAT. AFTER DEP A REVIEW OF CURRENT AND FORECAST WX INDICATED AN ALTERNATE WAS, IN FACT, REQUIRED -- THEREFORE, THE ADDITIONAL FUEL REQUIRED FOR AN ALTERNATE (PLUS 45 MIN) WAS NOT ADDED. FLT LANDED AT DEST WITHOUT INCIDENT. ONCE THERE, I CALLED MY DISPATCHER AND HIS RESPONSE WAS -- 'OH, I MUST HAVE MISSED THAT -- NO BIG DEAL.' THE FLT INTO GREENSBORO WAS LATE, SO WE WERE ALL IN A HURRY TO TURN THE FLT QUICKLY BACK TO DCA AND TRY TO MAKE UP SOME TIME. THE UNFAMILIARITY OF THE RELEASE FORMAT ALONG WITH THE PRESSURE TO GET BACK ON SCHEDULE CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTED. THE CAVALIER ATTITUDE OF MY DISPATCHER IN SBY DID LITTLE TO INSPIRE ANY CONFIDENCE THAT THIS MIGHT BE CORRECTED ANYTIME SOON. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 301597: WE ADDED SOME ADDITIONAL FUEL OVER PLANNED WHICH DID PROVIDE US JUST ENOUGH FUEL TO COVER THE FUEL TO A LEGAL ALTERNATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.