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Attributes | |
ACN | 302260 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10600 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau artcc : zdc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 302260 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was off the ATC radio picking up the ATIS information when the captain began descent. When I returned, the captain briefed me on the current directions of heading, altitude and airspeed. The controller was very busy and it seemed that nearly every other instruction was for us -- almost constant changes in altitude, airspeed and/or heading with a final request to 'expedite descent to 11000 ft.' as we leveled from a rapid descent the controller questioned our altitude and altimeter setting. We then noticed that we had neglected to reset the altimeters and had leveled approximately 400 ft low. It took longer than normal to copy the ATIS because it changed while I was copying it and it took some time for the new one to come up. ATC radio was talking constantly with an exceptional number of changes for us specifically. 2-MAN cockpits are busy even during a normal descent and approach. I'm not surprised we forgot something, but will try to do better in the future. Meanwhile, anything that can be done to reduce radio chatter, reduce vectoring, and give pilots more advance notice about where they are going in high density traffic areas will be helpful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT FLC FORGETS TO RESET ALTIMETER DSNDING BELOW FL180.
Narrative: I WAS OFF THE ATC RADIO PICKING UP THE ATIS INFO WHEN THE CAPT BEGAN DSCNT. WHEN I RETURNED, THE CAPT BRIEFED ME ON THE CURRENT DIRECTIONS OF HDG, ALT AND AIRSPD. THE CTLR WAS VERY BUSY AND IT SEEMED THAT NEARLY EVERY OTHER INSTRUCTION WAS FOR US -- ALMOST CONSTANT CHANGES IN ALT, AIRSPD AND/OR HDG WITH A FINAL REQUEST TO 'EXPEDITE DSCNT TO 11000 FT.' AS WE LEVELED FROM A RAPID DSCNT THE CTLR QUESTIONED OUR ALT AND ALTIMETER SETTING. WE THEN NOTICED THAT WE HAD NEGLECTED TO RESET THE ALTIMETERS AND HAD LEVELED APPROX 400 FT LOW. IT TOOK LONGER THAN NORMAL TO COPY THE ATIS BECAUSE IT CHANGED WHILE I WAS COPYING IT AND IT TOOK SOME TIME FOR THE NEW ONE TO COME UP. ATC RADIO WAS TALKING CONSTANTLY WITH AN EXCEPTIONAL NUMBER OF CHANGES FOR US SPECIFICALLY. 2-MAN COCKPITS ARE BUSY EVEN DURING A NORMAL DSCNT AND APCH. I'M NOT SURPRISED WE FORGOT SOMETHING, BUT WILL TRY TO DO BETTER IN THE FUTURE. MEANWHILE, ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO REDUCE RADIO CHATTER, REDUCE VECTORING, AND GIVE PLTS MORE ADVANCE NOTICE ABOUT WHERE THEY ARE GOING IN HIGH DENSITY TFC AREAS WILL BE HELPFUL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.