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Attributes | |
ACN | 303167 |
Time | |
Date | 199504 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fwa |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : fwa |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 303167 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 303410 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa other other : unspecified cockpit |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
On approach to fwa level at 10000 ft approach control called VFR traffic at 9500 ft 11:30 O'clock. We received a TCASII RA monitor vertical speed (began turn away from traffic remain level) then was clear of conflict. In less than 1 min received a second RA which required a climb -- started to respond to RA and then received a clear of conflict. ATC said they were 'not responsible for separation of IFR and VFR traffic,' even though the controller knew the traffic was heading directly at an airliner -- a it's not my job' attitude. First officer was at the controls. Turn was less than 30 degrees off course for less than 30 seconds altitude change was less than 100 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC EVADES VFR TFC USING TCASII RA WARNINGS.
Narrative: ON APCH TO FWA LEVEL AT 10000 FT APCH CTL CALLED VFR TFC AT 9500 FT 11:30 O'CLOCK. WE RECEIVED A TCASII RA MONITOR VERT SPD (BEGAN TURN AWAY FROM TFC REMAIN LEVEL) THEN WAS CLR OF CONFLICT. IN LESS THAN 1 MIN RECEIVED A SECOND RA WHICH REQUIRED A CLB -- STARTED TO RESPOND TO RA AND THEN RECEIVED A CLR OF CONFLICT. ATC SAID THEY WERE 'NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR SEPARATION OF IFR AND VFR TFC,' EVEN THOUGH THE CTLR KNEW THE TFC WAS HDG DIRECTLY AT AN AIRLINER -- A IT'S NOT MY JOB' ATTITUDE. FO WAS AT THE CTLS. TURN WAS LESS THAN 30 DEGS OFF COURSE FOR LESS THAN 30 SECONDS ALT CHANGE WAS LESS THAN 100 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.