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Attributes | |
ACN | 304234 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : msp |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 304234 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During the departure briefing, the captain described the maspeth profile departure for runway 13 instead of the whitestone climb profile which was assigned. I stated we were cleared the whitestone climb which was a 040 degrees (left turn) at 2.5 mi instead of 340 degrees (right turn). We were to do a right turn then a left turn like we did the previous day. We then also checked the FMGC and it was programmed for the whitestone showing the proper navigational display on the navigational display. However, after departing runway 13 and at 2.5 DME lga he asked for right turn 340 degrees. I stated it was left turn to 040 degrees. He insisted on right turn 340 degrees which he did. In doing so, it caused some doubt in my mind and tried quickly refer to the SID to confirm 040 degrees. By then with a frequency change we were closing on 340 degree heading and a turn back to the left we would turn into jfk traffic causing a conflict there. Upon contacting departure, we were advised we had followed the wrong SID. Part of the problem was that he was flying the departure with raw data. However, my side showed a good routing but with insistence on 340 degree heading we obviously erred. The departure descriptions on the SID for runway 13 could be printed in bold print and separated.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN LGT FOLLOWED THE WRONG SID RESULTING IN A DEV FROM ASSIGNED TRACK DURING DEP.
Narrative: DURING THE DEP BRIEFING, THE CAPT DESCRIBED THE MASPETH PROFILE DEP FOR RWY 13 INSTEAD OF THE WHITESTONE CLB PROFILE WHICH WAS ASSIGNED. I STATED WE WERE CLRED THE WHITESTONE CLB WHICH WAS A 040 DEGS (L TURN) AT 2.5 MI INSTEAD OF 340 DEGS (R TURN). WE WERE TO DO A R TURN THEN A L TURN LIKE WE DID THE PREVIOUS DAY. WE THEN ALSO CHKED THE FMGC AND IT WAS PROGRAMMED FOR THE WHITESTONE SHOWING THE PROPER NAVIGATIONAL DISPLAY ON THE NAVIGATIONAL DISPLAY. HOWEVER, AFTER DEPARTING RWY 13 AND AT 2.5 DME LGA HE ASKED FOR R TURN 340 DEGS. I STATED IT WAS L TURN TO 040 DEGS. HE INSISTED ON R TURN 340 DEGS WHICH HE DID. IN DOING SO, IT CAUSED SOME DOUBT IN MY MIND AND TRIED QUICKLY REFER TO THE SID TO CONFIRM 040 DEGS. BY THEN WITH A FREQ CHANGE WE WERE CLOSING ON 340 DEG HDG AND A TURN BACK TO THE L WE WOULD TURN INTO JFK TFC CAUSING A CONFLICT THERE. UPON CONTACTING DEP, WE WERE ADVISED WE HAD FOLLOWED THE WRONG SID. PART OF THE PROB WAS THAT HE WAS FLYING THE DEP WITH RAW DATA. HOWEVER, MY SIDE SHOWED A GOOD ROUTING BUT WITH INSISTENCE ON 340 DEG HDG WE OBVIOUSLY ERRED. THE DEP DESCRIPTIONS ON THE SID FOR RWY 13 COULD BE PRINTED IN BOLD PRINT AND SEPARATED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.