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Near midair collision, or at least less than standard separation, in the lga visual approach pattern.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 304442 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199505 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Saab-Scania Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | HS 125 Series 1-600 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 4600 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 304442 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 8100 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 304776 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other other : unspecified cockpit |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 8000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Cleared for visual approach into lga behind a corporate aircraft flying the expressway visual approach to runway 31 at lga. Called traffic in sight, then I turned downwind behind the traffic. ATC asked to confirm aircraft we were following, and at that point saw another corporate jet over the maspeth tanks, approximately 1 - 1 1/2 mi behind us. This was the correct aircraft ATC wanted us to follow. We stopped the descent, slowed the aircraft, and allowed the hawker to overtake us and pass underneath. Once adequate separation was established, continued the visual approach without incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC, OR AT LEAST LTSS, IN THE LGA VISUAL APCH PATTERN.
Narrative: CLRED FOR VISUAL APCH INTO LGA BEHIND A CORPORATE ACFT FLYING THE EXPRESSWAY VISUAL APCH TO RWY 31 AT LGA. CALLED TFC IN SIGHT, THEN I TURNED DOWNWIND BEHIND THE TFC. ATC ASKED TO CONFIRM ACFT WE WERE FOLLOWING, AND AT THAT POINT SAW ANOTHER CORPORATE JET OVER THE MASPETH TANKS, APPROX 1 - 1 1/2 MI BEHIND US. THIS WAS THE CORRECT ACFT ATC WANTED US TO FOLLOW. WE STOPPED THE DSCNT, SLOWED THE ACFT, AND ALLOWED THE HAWKER TO OVERTAKE US AND PASS UNDERNEATH. ONCE ADEQUATE SEPARATION WAS ESTABLISHED, CONTINUED THE VISUAL APCH WITHOUT INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.