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Attributes | |
ACN | 306067 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4400 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 13800 flight time type : 4500 |
ASRS Report | 306067 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to 5000 ft MSL from 6000 ft. In the descent, we were told to turn left to 180 degrees for a base leg at 'a.' at least 2 attempts were made by us to explain that the turn would place our aircraft in 1 of 2 strong (red) echo returns, and that we had to delay the turn. Due to extremely heavy radio work, the controller could not receive our message. In the preoccupation and frustration with not being able to comply with ATC's clearance to turn, in conjunction with the obvious safety concerns of taking my aircraft intentionally through an area of strong echo radar returns, we descended to 4480 ft MSL, 520 ft below our clearance of 5000 ft. Return to 5000 ft occurred within 15 seconds of the crew noticing the altitude. The effect of the altitude alerting system was greatly subdued not only because of preoccupation with severe WX, but because of a number of step-down directives from ATC in quick succession (7000 ft to 6000 ft to 5000 ft, etc). Radio contact with approach control was re-established at 'B.' at this point we heard a PIREP from the aircraft ahead of us on approach to runway 8L indicating a 'fairly smooth ride.' we immediately complied with the turn to 180 degrees, using 30 degrees bank at 170 KTS (which I believe was our cleared airspeed). The turn took us through the yellow/green echo return of the larger storm where we experienced light rain and light turbulence. The approach path for the parallel runway 9R was not encroached upon. Special note: this pilot experienced a lightning strike on flight den-abq, which damaged the autoplt. This occurred in an area of 'green' radar returns.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT FLC DOES NOT TURN AS VECTORED DUE TO EXTREME WX, DSNDS BELOW ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO 5000 FT MSL FROM 6000 FT. IN THE DSCNT, WE WERE TOLD TO TURN L TO 180 DEGS FOR A BASE LEG AT 'A.' AT LEAST 2 ATTEMPTS WERE MADE BY US TO EXPLAIN THAT THE TURN WOULD PLACE OUR ACFT IN 1 OF 2 STRONG (RED) ECHO RETURNS, AND THAT WE HAD TO DELAY THE TURN. DUE TO EXTREMELY HVY RADIO WORK, THE CTLR COULD NOT RECEIVE OUR MESSAGE. IN THE PREOCCUPATION AND FRUSTRATION WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO COMPLY WITH ATC'S CLRNC TO TURN, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE OBVIOUS SAFETY CONCERNS OF TAKING MY ACFT INTENTIONALLY THROUGH AN AREA OF STRONG ECHO RADAR RETURNS, WE DSNDED TO 4480 FT MSL, 520 FT BELOW OUR CLRNC OF 5000 FT. RETURN TO 5000 FT OCCURRED WITHIN 15 SECONDS OF THE CREW NOTICING THE ALT. THE EFFECT OF THE ALT ALERTING SYS WAS GREATLY SUBDUED NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF PREOCCUPATION WITH SEVERE WX, BUT BECAUSE OF A NUMBER OF STEP-DOWN DIRECTIVES FROM ATC IN QUICK SUCCESSION (7000 FT TO 6000 FT TO 5000 FT, ETC). RADIO CONTACT WITH APCH CTL WAS RE-ESTABLISHED AT 'B.' AT THIS POINT WE HEARD A PIREP FROM THE ACFT AHEAD OF US ON APCH TO RWY 8L INDICATING A 'FAIRLY SMOOTH RIDE.' WE IMMEDIATELY COMPLIED WITH THE TURN TO 180 DEGS, USING 30 DEGS BANK AT 170 KTS (WHICH I BELIEVE WAS OUR CLRED AIRSPD). THE TURN TOOK US THROUGH THE YELLOW/GREEN ECHO RETURN OF THE LARGER STORM WHERE WE EXPERIENCED LIGHT RAIN AND LIGHT TURB. THE APCH PATH FOR THE PARALLEL RWY 9R WAS NOT ENCROACHED UPON. SPECIAL NOTE: THIS PLT EXPERIENCED A LIGHTNING STRIKE ON FLT DEN-ABQ, WHICH DAMAGED THE AUTOPLT. THIS OCCURRED IN AN AREA OF 'GREEN' RADAR RETURNS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.