Ramp operation aircraft parking procedure. This cpr pilot had difficulty parking at the GA ramp at j...

Attributes
ACN	307510
Time
Date	199506
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jfk
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	ground : parked ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 5700 flight time type : 3400
ASRS Report	307510
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	flight crew : became reoriented other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

We were taxiing in to park at the jfk GA terminal. As far as we could tell the ramp area was uncontrolled. There are no signs that say contact anyone, nor is there any information in the airport facility directory, the government approach plates or the NOTAMS, as to contacting anyone other than the unicom frequency 122.95. They did not give us any taxi/parking instructions on the unicom frequency and there was no ramp person out there to park us until after we pulled up to park, in front of the building. (It was our first time to this parking area.) we parked in a normal manner approximately 100 ft from the terminal building. There were no signs, no yellow T's painted on the ground, etc. After we parked a port authority/authorized guy came out in a truck and had us move further from the building. He seemed upset. We complied and parked probably 200 ft from the building this time. We went inside and the guy behind the counter (black male, 40-50 yrs old, dark glasses, 6 ft tall) said that we were not supposed to park so close to the building. He also said that we were ok though and that we were not in trouble. He did mention that the management people on the second floor of the terminal building were upset that we parked close.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: RAMP OP ACFT PARKING PROC. THIS CPR PLT HAD DIFFICULTY PARKING AT THE GA RAMP AT JFK.

Narrative: WE WERE TAXIING IN TO PARK AT THE JFK GA TERMINAL. AS FAR AS WE COULD TELL THE RAMP AREA WAS UNCTLED. THERE ARE NO SIGNS THAT SAY CONTACT ANYONE, NOR IS THERE ANY INFO IN THE ARPT FACILITY DIRECTORY, THE GOV APCH PLATES OR THE NOTAMS, AS TO CONTACTING ANYONE OTHER THAN THE UNICOM FREQ 122.95. THEY DID NOT GIVE US ANY TAXI/PARKING INSTRUCTIONS ON THE UNICOM FREQ AND THERE WAS NO RAMP PERSON OUT THERE TO PARK US UNTIL AFTER WE PULLED UP TO PARK, IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING. (IT WAS OUR FIRST TIME TO THIS PARKING AREA.) WE PARKED IN A NORMAL MANNER APPROX 100 FT FROM THE TERMINAL BUILDING. THERE WERE NO SIGNS, NO YELLOW T'S PAINTED ON THE GND, ETC. AFTER WE PARKED A PORT AUTH GUY CAME OUT IN A TRUCK AND HAD US MOVE FURTHER FROM THE BUILDING. HE SEEMED UPSET. WE COMPLIED AND PARKED PROBABLY 200 FT FROM THE BUILDING THIS TIME. WE WENT INSIDE AND THE GUY BEHIND THE COUNTER (BLACK MALE, 40-50 YRS OLD, DARK GLASSES, 6 FT TALL) SAID THAT WE WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO PARK SO CLOSE TO THE BUILDING. HE ALSO SAID THAT WE WERE OK THOUGH AND THAT WE WERE NOT IN TROUBLE. HE DID MENTION THAT THE MGMNT PEOPLE ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE TERMINAL BUILDING WERE UPSET THAT WE PARKED CLOSE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Ramp operation aircraft parking procedure. This cpr pilot had difficulty parking at the GA ramp at jfk.