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Attributes | |
ACN | 309490 |
Time | |
Date | 199507 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 309490 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 309491 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Arriving lax on civet 1, I (the copilot), was flying. We were approaching bremr intersection at 12000 ft. Approach changed our runway to 24R, gave us 10 degree right turn to intercept localizer and descend to 10000 ft . I heard 10000 ft captain read back 10000 ft and I confirmed 10000 ft on AFDS panel descending to the altitude controller said we were supposed to be at 11000 ft. Captain replied that we had readback 10000 ft controller added no further comment. Problem may have arisen during the runway change.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MISCOM, ALT CLRNC. CLRNC INTERP ACKNOWLEDGE READBACK HEARBACK DISPUTED.
Narrative: ARRIVING LAX ON CIVET 1, I (THE COPLT), WAS FLYING. WE WERE APCHING BREMR INTXN AT 12000 FT. APCH CHANGED OUR RWY TO 24R, GAVE US 10 DEG R TURN TO INTERCEPT LOC AND DSND TO 10000 FT . I HEARD 10000 FT CAPT READ BACK 10000 FT AND I CONFIRMED 10000 FT ON AFDS PANEL DSNDING TO THE ALT CTLR SAID WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AT 11000 FT. CAPT REPLIED THAT WE HAD READBACK 10000 FT CTLR ADDED NO FURTHER COMMENT. PROB MAY HAVE ARISEN DURING THE RWY CHANGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.